Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272

[John Corbett]

Not a good analogy.  There is abundant evidence that the Earth is spherical and no evidence that conflicts with that.

There is abundant evidence of JBC being shot in the early Z220s (jacket bulge, arm flip, twisting and doubling over to his right) but you ignore all of that because you prefer to believe in a fantasy.

In the case of the SBT there is no one who witnessed it and some who witnesses who said it didn’t happen.

Do you think witnesses can see bullets in flight? I guess that's no nuttier than some of the other goofy things you have convinced yourself of.

There is also abundant other evidence that conflicts with it.  You just say that evidence is all wrong.  I am saying: keep an open mind about it.

I refuse to keep an open mind about nonsense such as a flat earth or your goofy scenario.

You don’t think this is in reaction to just being shot in the neck?

You said the reaction was at Z224. What reaction do you see in Z224. At Z225, JFK's right arm is still moving downward from where it was at Z225. David Von Pein has pointed out that JFK's facial expression seems to be a reaction to being shot and he might be right but the frame when enlarged is too blurry to say conclusively. In any event, there is no visible reaction at Z224 which is what you claimed.

I never said I don’t see those things. I am just saying that it is quite consistent with how JBC and others said he reacted to the first shot.

Tell me where JBC said he reacted to the first shot by flipping his arm upward, doubling over and twisting to his right. He said he looked over his right shoulder and when he could not see JFK he started to turn back to the front when he felt the shot strike him in the back. Tell me where you see JBC start turning back to the front post Z230. You have him doing just the opposite. You have him turned around and facing the rear when he was shot in the back, an impossibility for a shot from the rear.

You think JBC's reaction to being shot in the thigh is to calmly turn to his right to see JFK. Then you believe his obvious arm flip and dramatic gyrations at Z226 and immediately after are NOT reactions to being shot through the chest and wrist. These are just examples of the nutty things you have to believe to convince yourself of your nonsensical scenario.

Tague’s testimony is not evidence? Greer’s is not evidence? That’s why you should keep an open mind.

I refuse to keep an open mind to nonsense.

You continue to treat witness accounts as if they are established facts. There is no conclusive evidence as to when Tague was hit. It could have been a first shot ricochet or a fragment from the headshot. We can say with certainty that it did not come from CE399 which is the bullet from the second shot.
You expect us to believe the second shot struck JBC's wrist, ricocheted up over the front seat, over the windshield, and flew all the way down to where Tague was standing and somehow still had enough velocity to strike the curb in front of Tague and cause his facial wound. Should we label this MMFT (Mason's Magic Fragment Theory)?

You also seem to have an arithmetic problem. If the bullet from the second shot hit Tague and the headshot was the third shot, how did the CE399 and up at Parkland. You have also tried to tell us the first bullet imbedded in the upholstery after exiting JFK's throat and striking JBC's thigh and went undetected aby the SS and FBI. That's four shots. OMG!!! After 62 years you have uncovered empirical evidence of a fourth shot, a second shooter, and a conspiracy. WTG!!

[John Corbett]

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[Zeon Mason]

Well I’m kind of stuck in this middle ground area kind of like Neo was in the subway.

I can’t ignore 3/4th witness hearing the 3 shots rapidly fired and in the 1….2..3 pattern.

But I cannot ignore that Z film z223-Z230 sequence of JFK and JC moving in sync.

I don’t buy that JCs jacket bulge coincident with this in sync movement was caused by just a random gust of wind.

I don’t buy that the expression on JCs face is fear rather than pain. JC may have thought he felt no pain at the time but his body is reflexively responding to the force of the bullet causing his body to rotate and move forward. And the sudden jerk of his right hand upward holding the hat, is another indication of an involuntary nervous system reaction.

So the Z224 shot I think is more probable than the Z270 shot, especially given the computer modeling that Myers has done for Z224 which lines up the chest wound with the wrist wound and thigh wound.

However, I’m stuck with Harold Norman’s 3 shots  in  about 4 secs by his boom click click demonstrations and his recollection that JFK slumped after the 1st shot and that only AFTER that slump did Norman hear the next 2 shots in only about 2-3 secs.

The simple resolution would be that the TSBD shooter used a semi auto rifle, and that Norman heard just the shells being “ejected” and hitting the floor. However Norman in his WC testimony after pointed out his original  “ejected” statement goes on to agree with the leading questions if he meant he was describing the operation of the bolt.

Will Fritz picked up the shells at the SN that Luke Mooney had seen on the floor , but unfortunately BEFORE they were photographed  laying on the floor. So that introduces some doubt if those really were MC shells.

However, this leads off into the rabbit hole of conspiracy and suspicions of Fritz and many others willing to participate in a post event cover up, and how or why was the MC rifle placed on the 6th floor if the shooter was using a semi auto.

So I am leaning that the TSBD shooter was using the MC rifle and he fired Z224 as the first shot, took his time 4.8 secs later and shot the 2nd shot at Z313. Then he must have seen he had scored a hit at Z313 and he just rapidly fired the 3rd shot in 2 secs that went and struck the curb near Tague (and then into the sewer?) This at least fits the 1….2..3 pattern and all 3 shots in about 6.8 secs which might be “close enough?