Podcast On Tippit

[Bill Brown]

I appeared on The Lone Gunman Podcast earlier tonight.  Have a look and let me know if you disagree with anything I said...

[Gerry Down]

I think deep down inside you know Oswald is innocent of the Tippit murder but you can't bring yourself to admit it lest your whole internal world come crashing down.

[Martin Weidmann]

I think deep down inside you know Oswald is innocent of the Tippit murder but you can't bring yourself to admit it lest your whole internal world come crashing down.

Let me pour some oil on this little fire....

I think deep down inside you know Oswald is innocent of the Tippit murder

You may well be correct, because anybody who is truly convinced of Oswald's guilt, doesn't need to misrepresent evidence to make his case, as Bill has done on several occasions in the past.

In podcasts like this it isn't of much significance what Bill says. Far more telling is what he misrepresents, ignores and dismisses.

[Tom Graves]

I think deep down inside you know Oswald is innocent of the Tippit murder but you can't bring yourself to admit it lest your whole internal world come crashing down.

I think you're full of Jim DiEugenio's pungent beans.

[Martin Weidmann]

Let me mention one simple conundrum, put forward by Dale Myers and supported by Bill Brown.

In the past Bill and I have discussed that Helen Markham said in her testimony that she took her daily bus to work from the Jefferson bus stop at 1.15 PM. That may well be an estimate or a generalization, as far as I am concerned. Bill correctly pointed out that the FBI determined that the bus schedule showed arrivals of the bus at 1.12 and 1.22 (as if buses were never delayed) and that Markham thus must have taken the 1.22 bus. What Bill never did (to the best of my knowledge) is argue that Markham actually normally arrived later than 1.15 at the bus stop.

Fair enough, I suppose, but it still places Markham at the Jefferson bus stop at 1.15, when Bill thinks that Tippit was shot at around 1.14. The FBI determined that walking one block, between 10th and Jefferson took about 2,5 to 3 minutes. So, for Markham to get to the bus stop at 1.15 she would have had to pass by the 10th and Patton crossing between 1.12 and 1.13 at the latest.

Now, here's the problem; according to Dale Myers, Markham arrived at the crossing of 10th and Patton just when Tippit's patrol car passed by (at 1.12 or 1.13?). We know that Tippit was well passed the crossing when he stopped his killer. We know there was a short conversation between Tippit and the killer after which Tippit got out of the car and was shot. So, the question now becomes, what was Markham doing standing around at the crossing to watch Tippit being killed if she had to catch her bus to work? Wouldn't one expect that she would simply carry on walking in order to get to the bus stop on time?

[Martin Weidmann]

I think you're full of Jim DiEugenio's pungent beans.

Do you also think that anybody is actually interested in what you think?

[Tom Graves]

Do you also think that anybody is actually interested in what you think?

You evidently do, Weidmann, otherwise you wouldn't be replying.

[Tom Graves]

Let me mention one simple conundrum, put forward by Dale Myers and supported by Bill Brown.

In the past Bill and I have discussed that Helen Markham said in her testimony that she took her daily bus to work from the Jefferson bus stop at 1.15 PM. That may well be an estimate or a generalization, as far as I am concerned. Bill correctly pointed out that the FBI determined that the bus schedule showed arrivals of the bus at 1.12 and 1.22 (as if buses were never delayed) and that Markham thus must have taken the 1.22 bus. What Bill never did (to the best of my knowledge) is argue that Markham actually normally arrived later than 1.15 at the bus stop.

Fair enough, I suppose, but it still places Markham at the Jefferson bus stop at 1.15, when Bill thinks that Tippit was shot at around 1.14. The FBI determined that walking one block, between 10th and Jefferson took about 2,5 to 3 minutes. So, for Markham to get to the bus stop at 1.15 she would have had to pass by the 10th and Patton crossing between 1.12 and 1.13 at the latest.

Now, here's the problem; according to Dale Myers, Markham arrived at the crossing of 10th and Patton just when Tippit's patrol car passed by (at 1.12 or 1.13?). We know that Tippit was well passed [sic] the crossing when he stopped his killer. We know there was a short conversation between Tippit and the killer after which Tippit got out of the car and was shot. So, the question now becomes, what was Markham doing standing around at the crossing to watch Tippit being killed if she had to catch her bus to work? Wouldn't one expect that she would simply carry on walking in order to get to the bus stop on time?

What are you quibbling about now?