Podcast On Tippit

[Tom Graves]

Let me mention one simple conundrum, put forward by Dale Myers and supported by Bill Brown.

In the past Bill and I have discussed that Helen Markham said in her testimony that she took her daily bus to work from the Jefferson bus stop at 1.15 PM. That may well be an estimate or a generalization, as far as I am concerned. Bill correctly pointed out that the FBI determined that the bus schedule showed arrivals of the bus at 1.12 and 1.22 (as if buses were never delayed) and that Markham thus must have taken the 1.22 bus. What Bill never did (to the best of my knowledge) is argue that Markham actually normally arrived later than 1.15 at the bus stop.

Fair enough, I suppose, but it still places Markham at the Jefferson bus stop at 1.15, when Bill thinks that Tippit was shot at around 1.14. The FBI determined that walking one block, between 10th and Jefferson took about 2,5 to 3 minutes. So, for Markham to get to the bus stop at 1.15 she would have had to pass by the 10th and Patton crossing between 1.12 and 1.13 at the latest.

Now, here's the problem; according to Dale Myers, Markham arrived at the crossing of 10th and Patton just when Tippit's patrol car passed by (at 1.12 or 1.13?). We know that Tippit was well passed [sic] the crossing when he stopped his killer. We know there was a short conversation between Tippit and the killer after which Tippit got out of the car and was shot. So, the question now becomes, what was Markham doing standing around at the crossing to watch Tippit being killed if she had to catch her bus to work? Wouldn't one expect that she would simply carry on walking in order to get to the bus stop on time?

What are you quibbling about now?

[Martin Weidmann]

You evidently do, Weidmann, otherwise you wouldn't be replying.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble I couldn't give a damn about the opinions of a nobody.
But feel free to boost your fragile ego by believing otherwise.

[Martin Weidmann]

What are you quibbling about now?

Why am I not surprised that you don't understand this?

[Tom Graves]

Bill,

I like the part where you point out that fibers matching the shirt Oswald was arrested in were found in the jacket discovered under the car at the gas station, the fact that Earlene Roberts said Oswald zipped up his "short coat" when he left -- i.e., his brownish-red (or reddish-brown?) button-up long-sleeved shirt couldn't have been confused with his zip-up jacket or vice-versa -- and the fact that it makes perfect sense that Oswald, having killed Tippit a couple of minutes earlier, would jettison his jacket at or behind the gas station in an attempt to alter his appearance.

I also like the fact that witnesses' conflicting descriptions of the direction Oswald was walking before Tippit stopped him can be explained by the following scenario:

He had a still-valid bus transfer and he hoped to catch a bus to the VA Hospital (and from there a Greyhound bus to Laredo) and therefore he walked past 10th and Patton towards the bus stop on Marsalis until he came around a curve in the road and saw a County Police car parked a block away, so he turned around and started walking back towards 10th and Patton for his unexpected rendezvous with Officer Tippit.

-- Tom

[Gerry Down]

You may well be correct, because anybody who is truly convinced of Oswald's guilt, doesn't need to misrepresent evidence to make his case, as Bill has done on several occasions in the past.

In podcasts like this it isn't of much significance what Bill says. Far more telling is what he misrepresents, ignores and dismisses.

I think deep down inside you know Oswald is guilty of the Tippit murder but you can't bring yourself to admit it lest your whole internal world come crashing down.

[Tom Graves]

I think deep down inside you know Oswald is guilty of the Tippit murder but you can't bring yourself to admit it lest your whole internal world come crashing down.

Correct.

Oswald murdered Tippit.

[Tommy Shanks]

So, the question now becomes, what was Markham doing standing around at the crossing to watch Tippit being killed if she had to catch her bus to work? Wouldn't one expect that she would simply carry on walking in order to get to the bus stop on time?

After watching a police officer be murdered in broad daylight right in front of you, would you "simply carry on walking"