Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning

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Re: Another sign that interest in the JFK assassination is waning
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 08:37:40 PM »
  I welcome being taken out of context. It reveals how one sided in my favor the issue(s) under discussion is.
  I have supplied far more Evidence supporting: (1) "No Glove Cop", and, (2) "Car" traveling down the Elm St Extension while shot(s) were being fired vs (1) "Lost Bullet" having struck a traffic signal support beam while Zapruder was Not Filming. This matchup is a Mike Tyson TKO in Rd 1.   
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« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 08:50:31 PM »
An interesting article. In the past I have used the terms reflexive and cognitive to describe reactions where your article speaks of voluntary and involuntary. Unless I am misunderstanding, I think we are talking about the same thing. Cognitive reactions take longer and are a less reliable way of determining the timing of events because they involve a thought process and that can vary. For example, we see cognitive reactions by JBC and Rosemary Willis to the sound of the first shot. JBC's reaction began at frame 164 whereas Rosemary Willis' reaction began at about 171. I believe it was during filming of hunting programs, perhaps the American Sportsman, it was shown that a cameraman will jiggle his camera in reaction to the sound of a high-powered rifle shot. It is an involuntary reaction and one that will occur even when the cameraman is expecting the gunshot. The problem with applying jiggle analysis to the Zapruder film is that while every gunshot will be followed by a jiggle, not every jiggle is caused by a gunshot. It is my belief that the camera jiggle at frame 158 is a reaction to the first shot but I cannot prove that to be a fact.

Roselle and Scearce have JBC and Rosemary Willis reacting cognitively / voluntarily at Z-150 and Z-140, respectively.
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« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 09:14:50 PM »
I have supplied far more evidence supporting the "no-glove policeman" bad guy and the 1958 Pontiac Bonneville Abandoned Getaway Car's traveling down Elm Street Extension while a shot or shots were being fired versus Max Holland's "Lost Bullet" having struck a traffic signal mast arm while Zapruder wasn't filming.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Max Holland is probably wrong that Oswald's first, missing-everything shot was fired at hypothetical "Z-107" and glanced off the traffic signal's mast arm, but since Elsie Dorman said she temporarily stopped filming right after she heard the first shot, he's still right that said shot was fired before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second pause) at Z-133.

Roselle and Scearce are almost certainly right that, based on the conscious / voluntary reaction times of seven prime witness, Oswald's first shot was at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming.

https://d7922adf-f499-4a26-96d4-8ab2d521fa35.usrfiles.com/ugd/d7922a_e280e26982b44f2c97c6e6e27026e385.pdf

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« Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 09:25:31 PM »

  So you automatically attach that possible early shot/Lost Bullet to the sniper's nest? You've "jumped the shark" right outta the box.

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« Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 09:49:07 PM »
So, you automatically attach that possible early missed-shot to the Sniper's Nest?

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Of course.

Afterall, most of the witnesses heard three shots, the three guys on the fifth floor heard three spent shells hit the floor above them as well as the working of the bolt three times on the short-rifle, Robert Hughes filmed a person in the Sniper's Nest window as the limo was turning onto Elm Street, several people saw a man in said window during the shooting, the trajectory of the entrance wound in the back of JFK's head and the trajectory of the wounds in JFK's lower neck / JBC's back, wrist, and thigh line up with the Sniper's Nest window. etc., etc., etc., and the spray pattern / skull fragments ejection pattern indicate a shot from behind.

Do you have a problem with that?

-- Tom

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« Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 09:59:16 PM »
Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Of course.

Afterall, most of the witnesses heard three shots, the three guys on the fifth floor heard three spent shells hit the floor above them as well as the working of the bolt three times on the short-rifle, Robert Hughes filmed a person in the Sniper's Nest window as the limo was turning onto Elm Street, several people saw a man in said window during the shooting, the trajectory of the entrance wound in the back of JFK's head and the trajectory of the wounds in JFK's lower neck / JBC's back, wrist, and thigh line up with the Sniper's Nest window. etc., etc., etc., and the spray pattern / skull fragments ejection pattern indicate a shot from behind.

Do you have a problem with that?

-- Tom

  Again, you're loose with the Facts. Not all 3 guys on the 5th floor, "heard three spent shells hit the floor above them.....". That is flat-out wrong. And you want your "theories" to be given serious consideration. Same goes for your challenging the theories of others. You damage your own credibility. 

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« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 11:11:52 PM »
  Again, you're loose with the Facts. Not all 3 guys on the 5th floor, "heard three spent shells hit the floor above them.....". That is flat-out wrong. And you want your "theories" to be given serious consideration. Same goes for your challenging the theories of others. You damage your own credibility.

Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Oh, oh, oh, oh . . . my bad.

You're right.

It was "just" that "Deep State" operative, Harold Norman.

(Gasp . . . did the evil, evil, evil CIA or the evil, evil, evil FBI or the evil, evil, evil Secret Service or the evil, evil, evil Dallas Police Department - - - I mean Cop Department - - - force him to say that?)

You're really caught us . . . I mean me . . . out this time, Sonderführer Storing!

I guess the plaster falling onto Bonnie Ray Williams' head during the shooting was just a coincidence after all.

Darn.

-- Tom
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« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 11:46:39 PM »
Dear Sonderführer Storing,

Oh, oh, oh, oh . . . my bad.

You're right.

It was "just" that "Deep State" operative, Harold Norman.

(Gasp . . . did the evil, evil, evil CIA or the evil, evil, evil FBI or the evil, evil, evil Secret Service or the evil, evil, evil Dallas Police Department - - - I mean Cop Department - - - force him to say that?)

You're really caught us . . . I mean me . . . out this time, Sonderführer Storing!

I guess the plaster falling onto Bonnie Ray Williams' head during the shooting was just a coincidence after all.

Darn.

-- Tom

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