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[Royell Storing]

Here’s a photo of the tramps taken from a position near the corner of Houston and Elm:



I have outlined both poles with yellow lines. The car is clearly visible with both poles dissecting the windshield. The steering wheel can be seen between the poles. From this angle the car doesn’t appear to be to the left of either one of the poles. The angle of the line of sight makes this difference. Wiegman had a somewhat similar angle as this photo. That’s why the car appears to dissected by the poles in the Wiegman film.

    Thanks for posting the above photo. What you are referencing is on the OTHER SIDE of the Elm St Extension. The whitish car that we can easily see is THE CAR we are discussing. We can see almost the entire front passenger side window of this car. This leaves the hood and front bumper of this car out of the pic. Attaching the hood and front bumper to what we do see, would place this entire car just to the (L) of the (Yellow) pole closest to the car. That (Yellow) Pole is the Street Light Pole with the "NO PARKING........" sign attached to it. The whitish car is parked exactly where I have been saying it was parked. To the (L) of both: (1) the Street Light Pole with the "NO PARKING....." sign attached to it, and (2) the Traffic Signal Pole with the pointed sign attached to it. Again, that whitish car on the pic you posted is to the (L) of both poles.
 
                            I have come across a very good elevated view of the Island showing the location of both poles.

             Go to YOU TUBE and search -  "Four Days in November" (1964) - David L. Wolper JFK Assassination Documentary.   by - LionHeart Filmworks
 
                          39:58 - 40:05  Gives an extremely good elevated view of the Island and the position of the 2 poles.

[Gerry Down]

    Thanks for posting the above photo. What you are referencing is on the OTHER SIDE of the Elm St Extension. The whitish car that we can easily see is THE CAR we are discussing. We can see almost the entire front passenger side window of this car. This leaves the hood and front bumper of this car out of the pic. Attaching the hood and front bumper to what we do see, would place this entire car just to the (L) of the (Yellow) pole closest to the car. That (Yellow) Pole is the Street Light Pole with the "NO PARKING........" sign attached to it. The whitish car is parked exactly where I have been saying it was parked. To the (L) of both: (1) the Street Light Pole with the "NO PARKING....." sign attached to it, and (2) the Traffic Signal Pole with the pointed sign attached to it. Again, that whitish car on the pic you posted is to the (L) of both poles.
 
                            I have come across a very good elevated view of the Island showing the location of both poles.

             Go to YOU TUBE and search -  "Four Days in November" (1964) - David L. Wolper JFK Assassination Documentary.   by - LionHeart Filmworks
 
                          39:58 - 40:05  Gives an extremely good elevated view of the Island and the position of the 2 poles.

It looks to me like you are describing a completely different car here. The car we've been talking about is parked tight to the island. In the picture Charles Collins last posted, we can only see the rear passenger quarter panel and the front windscreen. You seem to be now talking about a car parked behind this car, a car almost looking like it was parked in the street itself of the Elm street extension.

[Royell Storing]

It looks to me like you are describing a completely different car here. The car we've been talking about is parked tight to the island. In the picture Charles Collins last posted, we can only see the rear passenger quarter panel and the front windscreen. You seem to be now talking about a car parked behind this car, a car almost looking like it was parked in the street itself of the Elm street extension.

   That lightly colored car IS parked tight to the island. The Elm St Extension is only 2 lanes wide. In the photo that Charles posted, I can see the (R) side of this lightly colored car up to/including the (R) front passenger window. This is the same car we see on the tail end of the Hughes film. The Hughes film shows the car parked to the (L) of the "NO PARKING" sign. That sign is attached to the Street Light Pole. It is also the same car we see on YOU TUBE  - "Manhunt: The Search for JFK's Killer (Full Episode) | JFK: One Day In America"  by - National Geographic. At the 8:56 point, we see this same light colored car parked/hugging the Island side of the Elm St Extension. This very same car is on numerous Films and Photos taken that day. Whether it is Roughly 20 seconds after the kill shot, or 3+ hours after the kill shot, this car is sitting in the exact same spot. (L) of the 2 poles.