Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2025, 10:59:35 PM »
   Have you heard the sound a fired carcano makes? It is nowhere close to, "....LOUDEST Crack of a rifle I had ever heard". And who said anything about, "she's somehow WRONG"? She is describing what she heard. She does not tie a carcano to that sound she heard/described. And, she is describing the 1st shot. The now alleged "early" shot that hit the traffic signal support beam. And in order to support this "early" shot, Towner even moved the position of the JFK Limo on Elm St. There is much more here than merely a "loud shot".

You're simply making things up. Tina Towner was 13 YEARS OLD when President Kennedy was assassinated. Do you honestly expect her to be able to distinguish the variable loudness between different kinds of rifles? And how can you possibly conclude from her statement that she heard a DIFFERENT rifle? This is lunacy.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2025, 10:59:35 PM »


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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2025, 11:17:43 PM »
You're simply making things up. Tina Towner was 13 YEARS OLD when President Kennedy was assassinated. Do you honestly expect her to be able to distinguish the variable loudness between different kinds of rifles? And how can you possibly conclude from her statement that she heard a DIFFERENT rifle? This is lunacy.

   You're discrediting your own witness. Shrewd!

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2025, 02:20:31 AM »
   You're discrediting your own witness. Shrewd!

Nope. Rather, your empty speculation is discredited. Your personal opinion about the loudness of a specific rifle has absolutely nothing to do with the specific conditions under which Towner was an ear witness to the shooting. You are advancing an evidence-free appeal to authority.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2025, 07:34:46 AM »
Nope. Rather, your empty speculation is discredited. Your personal opinion about the loudness of a specific rifle has absolutely nothing to do with the specific conditions under which Towner was an ear witness to the shooting. You are advancing an evidence-free appeal to authority.

         She said that the 1st shot was the, "LOUDEST Crack of a rifle I had ever heard". This means that any following shots/cracks had to of been NOT as loud. Different weapons, different "Cracks", different volume levels.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2025, 03:55:33 PM »
         She said that the 1st shot was the, "LOUDEST Crack of a rifle I had ever heard". This means that any following shots/cracks had to of been NOT as loud. Different weapons, different "Cracks", different volume levels.

Wrong again. It only means what TOWNER thought it means, and she absolutely DID NOT say that the "following shots/cracks" were different. You are making things up, again, and injecting your personal OPINION when it is totally uncalled for.

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« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2025, 04:44:40 PM »
Wrong again. It only means what TOWNER thought it means, and she absolutely DID NOT say that the "following shots/cracks" were different. You are making things up, again, and injecting your personal OPINION when it is totally uncalled for.

Well Clint Hill said the head shot sounded different so it's very possible.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2025, 05:28:58 PM »
Well Clint Hill said the head shot sounded different so it's very possible.

    Exactly! The WC Attorney knew what the goal was. 1 Shooter, 3 shots max. That's why he did not delve into Towner's, "LOUDEST Crack of a rifle I had EVER heard". To Towner's ear, that 1st shot stood out. Stood ALONE.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2025, 06:12:05 PM »
    Exactly! The WC Attorney knew what the goal was. 1 Shooter, 3 shots max. That's why he did not delve into Towner's, "LOUDEST Crack of a rifle I had EVER heard". To Towner's ear, that 1st shot stood out. Stood ALONE.
If it was a different rifle in a different location other than the sixth floor SE window, it sure fooled all of the three men directly below.  Harold Norman said he heard three bolt-action sounds and shells hitting the floor. Actual evidence is always better than speculation.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2025, 06:12:05 PM »