Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2025, 07:37:31 PM »
   Looking at Willis 4, the lady with the, "right arm raised up high", could be waving at the JFK Limo. She has Willis in front of her and could be waving above his head in order to possibly catch the eye of Jackie/JFK, etc.
   The TSBD has a very large footprint. The front of that building extends well down the Elm St Ext. A person can be looking at the end of the TSBD attached to the Huge Gates, and their view would be a great distance from the Sniper's Nest. Glancing in the direction of the front of the TSBD does Not automatically include seeing the sniper's nest.   


In the animated GIF, the direction that her arm and head are pointed stays the same for well over 2-seconds plus however much time she might have been doing this before Z133. Meanwhile the motorcade is moving right along. Near the end of the animated GIF she drops her right arm and turns her head to her left over 90-degrees to apparently see the presidential limousine. Meanwhile her companion continues to apparently point in that same original direction. If they were waving at anyone in the motorcade, I cannot believe that it was JFK or anyone in his limo or the queen mary.
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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2025, 08:48:21 PM »

In the animated GIF, the direction that her arm and head are pointed stays the same for well over 2-seconds plus however much time she might have been doing this before Z133. Meanwhile the motorcade is moving right along. Near the end of the animated GIF she drops her right arm and turns her head to her left over 90-degrees to apparently see the presidential limousine. Meanwhile her companion continues to apparently point in that same original direction. If they were waving at anyone in the motorcade, I cannot believe that it was JFK or anyone in his limo or the queen mary.

When you say "her companion," to whom are you referring?

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2025, 09:03:21 PM »

In the animated GIF, the direction that her arm and head are pointed stays the same for well over 2-seconds plus however much time she might have been doing this before Z133. Meanwhile the motorcade is moving right along. Near the end of the animated GIF she drops her right arm and turns her head to her left over 90-degrees to apparently see the presidential limousine. Meanwhile her companion continues to apparently point in that same original direction. If they were waving at anyone in the motorcade, I cannot believe that it was JFK or anyone in his limo or the queen mary.

   I believe one of these ladies was waving a hanky around. Let's keep that in mind with respect to a raised arm and people/Willis standing between these women and the JFK Limo. Raised arm(s) amidst a passing parade is not uncommon and certainly Not automatically connected to a sniper's nest.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2025, 09:59:39 PM »
   I believe one of these ladies was waving a hanky around. Let's keep that in mind with respect to a raised arm and people/Willis standing between these women and the JFK Limo. Raised arm(s) amidst a passing parade is not uncommon and certainly Not automatically connected to a sniper's nest.

The point is that they are both looking well behind the JFK limo towards the sniper’s nest window and pointing up high towards the sixth floor. And there is a large gap between the queen Mary and LBJ’s vehicle. So who the puck do you suppose they are waving at?

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2025, 10:10:18 PM »
When you say "her companion," to whom are you referring?


The other elderly lady who is stepping back off of the street and waving a white handkerchief in her left hand and pointing up towards the sniper’s nest with her right hand. I have drawn blue arrows at their heads. They can be seen together in that same area in the pre-Z133 section of the Zapruder film. Watch the animated GIF and you should see both of them pointing and looking in the same direction well behind the JFK limo towards the sniper’s nest window.




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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2025, 10:24:08 PM »
The point is that they are both looking well behind the JFK limo towards the sniper’s nest window and pointing up high towards the sixth floor. And there is a large gap between the queen Mary and LBJ’s vehicle. So who the puck do you suppose they are waving at?

   Let's slow it up a little. YOU have no idea if they are looking, "towards the sniper's nest window....". That is your Opinion. It is Not Fact. And the waving of a hanky is a valid consideration here. Funny how the hanky has Not been mentioned during this discussion.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2025, 10:47:16 PM »
Let's slow it up a little. YOU have no idea if they are looking, "towards the sniper's nest window....". That is your Opinion. It is Not Fact. And the waving of a hanky is a valid consideration here. Funny how the hanky has Not been mentioned during this discussion.

Comrade Storing,

She HAD the hanky IN her HAND already and was probably waving IT at JFK and Jackie WHEN she noticed Lee HARVEY Oswald in the WINDOW after he'd fired HIS first, MISSING-everything, shot at "Z-124," and CONTINUED waving it, HOPING the Secret Service guys would NOTICE her friend's POINTING to the WINDOW.

-- Tom
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