Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145

[Tom Graves]

How do we know that Rosemary Willis, in her conscious reaction to Oswald's first, missing everything shot at "Z-124," had already started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145?

Answer: By comparing the direction she's looking in Z-138 (towards JFK and Jackie) with the way her head and upper-torso are turned to her right in Z-145.





Interestingly, this is about the same time that motorcycle policeman Jim Chaney is looking to his left at JFK (and JFK has turned his head quickly -- and very briefly -- to his left), and Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the passenger side rear seat of the follow-up car, having heard "a firecracker," starts leaning to his right to see if JFK's okay.

[Charles Collins]

How do we know that Rosemary Willis, in her conscious reaction to Oswald's first, missing everything shot at "Z-124," had already started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145?

Answer: By comparing the direction she's looking in Z-138 (towards JFK and Jackie) with the way her head and upper-torso are turned to her right in Z-145.





Interestingly, this is about the same time that motorcycle policeman Jim Chaney is looking to his left at JFK (and JFK has turned his head quickly -- and very briefly -- to his left), and Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the passenger side rear seat of the follow-up car, having heard "a firecracker," starts leaning to his right to see if JFK's okay.

This is a crop of Z137. That frame’s significance is that it is the frame associated with the Willis4 photo. I put a yellow arrow pointed at Willis. He is taking the photo and has his face pointed about 90-degrees to the camera’s angle. Both the limo and the TSBD are in that direction at that point in time (as can be seen in the Willis4 photo). In Z137 it appears to me that Rosemary is looking directly at the camera.




If you will take notice of the gray-haired lady with the black hat who has her left arm and purse blocking the Zapruder’s camera’s view of Rosemary’s right side; you should be able to see that the lady’s right arm is raised up high. What is interesting about that is that she appears to be pointing directly at the sniper’s window. And there is a large gap in the motorcade between the queen mary vehicle and the VP vehicle. So there is no vehicle in the direction (where one might thing she is looking and waving). See the animation image below from the time of the Z141 frame.

[Tom Graves]

This is a crop of Z137. That frame’s significance is that it is the frame associated with the Willis4 photo. I put a yellow arrow pointed at Willis. He is taking the photo and has his face pointed about 90-degrees to the camera’s angle. Both the limo and the TSBD are in that direction at that point in time (as can be seen in the Willis4 photo). In Z137 it appears to me that Rosemary is looking directly at the camera.




If you will take notice of the gray-haired lady with the black hat who has her left arm and purse blocking the Zapruder’s camera’s view of Rosemary’s right side; you should be able to see that the lady’s right arm is raised up high. What is interesting about that is that she appears to be pointing directly at the sniper’s window. And there is a large gap in the motorcade between the queen mary vehicle and the VP vehicle. So there is no vehicle in the direction (where one might thing she is looking and waving). See the animation image below from the time of the Z141 frame.

Isn't the gray-haired lady with the black hat looking in the same direction as Mr. Willis?

Is she still pointing to the Sniper's Nest as she steps into the street in Z-145?

[Charles Collins]

Isn't the gray-haired lady with the black hat looking in the same direction as Mr. Willis?

Is she still pointing to the Sniper's Nest as she steps into the street in Z-145?

No, I think the gray-haired lady and her companion are pointing up at the sniper’s nest window. Here’s an animation, that has some other folks circled, but we can still see this gray-haired lady pointing up in the same direction, then lowering her right arm as she swings her head around to see the presidential limo. This animation starts in the Z160s, a couple of seconds after we see her already pointing up at the sniper’s nest in the Z137 frame. I think that if she was waving to anyone in the motorcade, she would have been turning and following their movement. Instead what we see is her pointing in the same direction for quite a while. As you might can tell, it is her companion who is stepping backwards out of the street. The gray-haired lady does not step into the street. Her companion also seems to be pointing up at the sniper’s nest window and waving a handkerchief with her other hand. I suspect they are trying to get the SS agents to look up at the sniper’s nest window because they both see LHO aiming and firing his rifle. They can both be seen in that same area in the Zapruder film before the motorcade arrives (pre 133). I suspect they (like several others noticed LHO n the window before the motorcade arrived). Apparently they never came forward with their accounts, so we will never know for sure if my imagination is correct or not.

[Steve Barber]

This is a crop of Z137. That frame’s significance is that it is the frame associated with the Willis4 photo. I put a yellow arrow pointed at Willis. He is taking the photo and has his face pointed about 90-degrees to the camera’s angle. Both the limo and the TSBD are in that direction at that point in time (as can be seen in the Willis4 photo). In Z137 it appears to me that Rosemary is looking directly at the camera.




If you will take notice of the gray-haired lady with the black hat who has her left arm and purse blocking the Zapruder’s camera’s view of Rosemary’s right side; you should be able to see that the lady’s right arm is raised up high. What is interesting about that is that she appears to be pointing directly at the sniper’s window. And there is a large gap in the motorcade between the queen mary vehicle and the VP vehicle. So there is no vehicle in the direction (where one might thing she is looking and waving). See the animation image below from the time of the Z141 frame.

  "In Z137 it appears to me that Rosemary is looking directly at the camera."

 Whose camera is she looking at?  She's looking straight ahead in frame 137.

[Charles Collins]

  "In Z137 it appears to me that Rosemary is looking directly at the camera."

 Whose camera is she looking at?  She's looking straight ahead in frame 137.

Hi Steve, I should have specified Zapruder’s camera. Thanks for helping to clarify this.

[Royell Storing]

This is a crop of Z137. That frame’s significance is that it is the frame associated with the Willis4 photo. I put a yellow arrow pointed at Willis. He is taking the photo and has his face pointed about 90-degrees to the camera’s angle. Both the limo and the TSBD are in that direction at that point in time (as can be seen in the Willis4 photo). In Z137 it appears to me that Rosemary is looking directly at the camera.




If you will take notice of the gray-haired lady with the black hat who has her left arm and purse blocking the Zapruder’s camera’s view of Rosemary’s right side; you should be able to see that the lady’s right arm is raised up high. What is interesting about that is that she appears to be pointing directly at the sniper’s window. And there is a large gap in the motorcade between the queen mary vehicle and the VP vehicle. So there is no vehicle in the direction (where one might thing she is looking and waving). See the animation image below from the time of the Z141 frame.

   Looking at Willis 4, the lady with the, "right arm raised up high", could be waving at the JFK Limo. She has Willis in front of her and could be waving above his head in order to possibly catch the eye of Jackie/JFK, etc.
   The TSBD has a very large footprint. The front of that building extends well down the Elm St Ext. A person can be looking at the end of the TSBD attached to the Huge Gates, and their view would be a great distance from the Sniper's Nest. Glancing in the direction of the front of the TSBD does Not automatically include seeing the sniper's nest.