Jim Chaney and the first shot timing

[Jack Nessan]

Chaney said that there were three shots (along with a plethora of other witnesses).

DPD Jim Chaney, ABC's Bill Lord 11/22/63 (youtube.com)

Can you point out where he mentions a third shot. 

(11-22-63 interview with Bill Lord on WFAA television, apparently in the early evening) “I was riding on the right rear fender... We had proceeded west on Elm Street at approximately 15-20 miles an hour. We heard the first shot. I thought it was a motorcycle backfiring and uh I looked back over to my left and also President Kennedy looked back over his left shoulder. Then, the, uh, second shot came, well, then I looked back just in time to see the President struck in the face by the second bullet.

A plethora of Ear witnesses not Eye witnesses.

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[Tom Graves]

Here is Chaney in an Altgens photo. I have drawn a yellow arrow pointing at his very black right earflap and a blue arrow pointing at the tip of his very black bill. Also, please note the distinctive shape of the helmet. It has a much straighter front than the rear surface which is more curved.




I have made similar arrows to what I described above for the Z153 frame below. It appears to me that Chaney has his head tilted down slightly. Probably because he is looking downhill towards JFK who is a little bit ahead of Chaney.

Okay, I see it, now.

Nice work!

[Royell Storing]

DPD motorcycle cop Jim Chaney was riding escort to the right side of the limo. He was the closest cop to JFK. Jim said that he thought the first shot was a motorcycle backfire. Jim Chaney said in a TV interview on 11/22/63 that he looked over at JFK right after he heard the shot and that JFK was looking towards his left shoulder. Here is a clip showing Chaney starting at Z136 through Z153. It appears to me that Chaney is turning his head to his left to look at JFK:





Meanwhile, JFK is shown in this clip during frames Z133 through Z154. JFK finishes fixing his hair and turns his head quickly towards his left shoulder. I would guess that he is checking on Jackie after hearing the first shot (which many folks thought to be a motorcycle backfire).

  This Officer Chaney portion of the Zapruder Film falls within the splicing that was done to this alleged assassination "film". There is also a Large Gap within the film along with this ham-handed slicing and dicing. The Current Zapruder Film is unreliable.

[Tom Graves]

The current Zapruder film is unreliable.

Comrade Storing,

Did the evil, evil Deep State bad guys alter all of the other photos and films that were taken of the motorcade as it was coming down Elm Street so said photos and films would support the "altered" Zapruder film?

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Comrade Storing,

Did the evil, evil Deep State bad guys alter all of the other photos and films that were taken of the motorcade as it was coming down Elm Street so said photos and films would support the "altered" Zapruder film?

-- Tom

 Only the "other photos and films" which included myself.

[Tom Graves]

Only the "other photos and films" which included myself.

Comrade Storing,

OMG . . . the evil, evil Deep State bad guys edited you out of some JFKA photos and films?

-- Tom

[Charles Collins]

DPD Jim Chaney, ABC's Bill Lord 11/22/63 (youtube.com)

Can you point out where he mentions a third shot. 

(11-22-63 interview with Bill Lord on WFAA television, apparently in the early evening) “I was riding on the right rear fender... We had proceeded west on Elm Street at approximately 15-20 miles an hour. We heard the first shot. I thought it was a motorcycle backfiring and uh I looked back over to my left and also President Kennedy looked back over his left shoulder. Then, the, uh, second shot came, well, then I looked back just in time to see the President struck in the face by the second bullet.

A plethora of Ear witnesses not Eye witnesses.

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This is a snip from the description provided by the YouTube poster HelmerReenberg:

Chaney said when he heard the first shot he remembered that it sounded like a motorcycle backfiring and Chaney immediately looked to his left and saw President Kennedy had "looked back over his left shoulder" within the limousine. In the famous Ike Altgens photo taken concurrent with Zapruder film frame 255, Chaney is seen very close to the limousine facing President Kennedy. Chaney further stated that "the second shot hit him in the face," and that a third shot was fired that Chaney did not see hit the president but he did see Governor John B. Connally's shirt erupt in blood.[/u] Chaney stated that the shots he remembered hearing seemed to come from "back over my right shoulder." During the assassination his police uniform was spattered with blood and President Kennedy's head matter.

I don’t see Chaney saying that (bolded and underlined part) in this video though. I would assume he must have made that statement at another time and place. That would be a good question to present to Helmer.

As far as JFK being hit in the face, he wasn’t. JFK was hit in the back of the neck and it exited his throat. Then another shot hit JFK in the back of the head and exited on the upper right side of his head. His face was never hit. If you view JFK in the Altgens photo, he appears to have his hands up around his face at about the level of his mouth. We can also see Chaney looking directly at JFK in the Altgens photo. I can imagine Chaney seeing JFK obviously hit and his hands up near his face at that point and assuming that JFK was hit in the face. Just my two cents worth….