Jim Chaney and the first shot timing

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Jim Chaney and the first shot timing
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DPD motorcycle cop Jim Chaney was riding escort to the right side of the limo. He was the closest cop to JFK. Jim said that he thought the first shot was a motorcycle backfire. Jim Chaney said in a TV interview on 11/22/63 that he looked over at JFK right after he heard the shot and that JFK was looking towards his left shoulder. Here is a clip showing Chaney starting at Z136 through Z153. It appears to me that Chaney is turning his head to his left to look at JFK:





Meanwhile, JFK is shown in this clip during frames Z133 through Z154. JFK finishes fixing his hair and turns his head quickly towards his left shoulder. I would guess that he is checking on Jackie after hearing the first shot (which many folks thought to be a motorcycle backfire).




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Re: Jim Chaney and the first shot timing
« Reply #1 on: Today at 07:16:58 PM »
DPD motorcycle cop Jim Chaney was riding escort to the right side of the limo. He was the closest cop to JFK. Jim said that he thought the first shot was a motorcycle backfire. Jim Chaney said in a TV interview on 11/22/63 that he looked over at JFK right after he heard the shot and that JFK was looking towards his left shoulder. Here is a clip showing Chaney starting at Z136 through Z153. It appears to me that Chaney is turning his head to his left to look at JFK:





Meanwhile, JFK is shown in this clip during frames Z133 through Z154. JFK finishes fixing his hair and turns his head quickly towards his left shoulder. I would guess that he is checking on Jackie after hearing the first shot (which many folks thought to be a motorcycle backfire).



Where exactly do you get there were three shots? DPD Chaney is very specific about shot one and then shot two hitting JFK in the head.

(11-22-63 interview with Bill Lord on WFAA television, apparently in the early evening) “I was riding on the right rear fender... We had proceeded west on Elm Street at approximately 15-20 miles an hour. We heard the first shot. I thought it was a motorcycle backfiring and uh I looked back over to my left and also President Kennedy looked back over his left shoulder. Then, the, uh, second shot came, well, then I looked back just in time to see the President struck in the face by the second bullet.

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Where exactly do you get there were three shots? DPD Chaney is very specific about shot one and then shot two hitting JFK in the head.

(11-22-63 interview with Bill Lord on WFAA television, apparently in the early evening) “I was riding on the right rear fender... We had proceeded west on Elm Street at approximately 15-20 miles an hour. We heard the first shot. I thought it was a motorcycle backfiring and uh I looked back over to my left and also President Kennedy looked back over his left shoulder. Then, the, uh, second shot came, well, then I looked back just in time to see the President struck in the face by the second bullet.


Chaney said that there were three shots (along with a plethora of other witnesses).

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DPD motorcycle cop Jim Chaney was riding escort to the right side of the limo. He was the closest cop to JFK. Jim said that he thought the first shot was a motorcycle backfire. Jim Chaney said in a TV interview on 11/22/63 that he looked over at JFK right after he heard the shot and that JFK was looking towards his left shoulder. Here is a clip showing Chaney starting at Z136 through Z153. It appears to me that Chaney is turning his head to his left to look at JFK:



Unfortunately, I don't see Chaney's alleged head turn.

I see a headless motorcycle policeman riding his motorcycle, and I see Officer Chaney looking straight ahead after he emerges from behind a light pole.


EDIT ALERT FOR COMRADE STORING:

It is interesting, however, to see Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the rear seat of the follow-up car leaning far to his right to see if JFK is okay.
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Re: Jim Chaney and the first shot timing
« Reply #4 on: Today at 07:52:32 PM »
Unfortunately, I don't see Chaney's alleged head turn.

I see a headless motorcycle policeman riding his motorcycle, and I see Officer Chaney looking straight ahead after he emerges from behind a large pole.


If he is looking straight ahead then his right ear flap moved over and is over his right eye.

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If he is looking straight ahead then his right ear flap moved over and is over his right eye.

1) Perhaps I need to ask Jake Maxwell to point out to me what you're seeing.

2) It is interesting to note, however, that Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the rear seat of the follow-up car, having heard a "firecracker," is leaning far to his right to see if JFK is okay.
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1) Perhaps I need to ask Jake Maxwell to point out to me what you're seeing.

2) It is interesting to note, however, that Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the rear seat of the follow-up car, having heard a "firecracker," is leaning far to his right to see if JFK is okay.


Here is Chaney in an Altgens photo. I have drawn a yellow arrow pointing at his very black right earflap and a blue arrow pointing at the tip of his very black bill. Also, please note the distinctive shape of the helmet. It has a much straighter front than the rear surface which is more curved.




I have made similar arrows to what I described above for the Z153 frame below. It appears to me that Chaney has his head tilted down slightly. Probably because he is looking downhill towards JFK who is a little bit ahead of Chaney.



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Re: Jim Chaney and the first shot timing
« Reply #7 on: Today at 09:02:46 PM »
JFK is fixing his hair koz he got hit on the back & side of the head by lead splatter from Oswald's ricochet offa the mast arm at about pseudo Z105.

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