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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2025, 10:12:29 AM »
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Dear danny BOY o'meara,

What do you think the significance of that great discovery is?

That Bonnie Ray Williams sat inside the Sniper's Nest while drinking his Dr. Pepper and eating his Fritos and his chicken-on-the-bone sandwich?

If so, do you think that when he was finished, he took his empty Dr. Pepper bottle around to the other side of the "side wall" and left it on the floor, there, or do you think he tossed it over said "side wall" from inside the Sniper's Nest and it just happened to land upright?

If you accept the fact that he ate his lunch outside the Sniper's Nest near windows three and four, do you find it highly, highly implausible that he didn't notice Oswald who was either hiding in the far corner of the Sniper's Nest or down at the other end of the building, waiting for you to leave, when he left his bag (with the chicken bones and the empty Fritos bag) on top of the Sniper's Nest back "wall"?

Do you really think he perjured himself in front of the Warren Commission, that evil, evil Allen Dulles and/or evil, evil Gerald Ford altered his testimony, and that that pesky Dr. Pepper bottle was planted there by the evil, evil, CIA, the evil, evil FBI, or the evil, evil [fill in the blank]?

It seems to me that Bonnie Ray probably ate his lunch where he testified he did -- near or actually sitting on the "two wheeler" by the third and fourth windows, but that's not very exciting, is it. (British dialect.)


Regardless, keep up the good work, danny old BOY o'meara.

Vladimir Putin's counting on you!


-- Tom

You are the one insisting that Bonnie Ray ate his lunch where he testified he did.
It's up to you to explain this discrepancy.
If you believe he ate his lunch a couple of aisles over from the Sniper's Nest, how did his lunch remains end up on top of it?
This is something that refutes your own interpretation of events regarding this matter, how do you explain that?
Do you do what the Warren Commission did (of course you do) and simply ignore this inconvenient fact?
If so, what does that say about you?

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2025, 11:01:45 AM »
You are the one insisting that Bonnie Ray ate his lunch where he testified he did.
It's up to you to explain this discrepancy.
If you believe he ate his lunch a couple of aisles over from the Sniper's Nest, how did his lunch remains end up on top of it?
This is something that refutes your own interpretation of events regarding this matter, how do you explain that?
Do you do what the Warren Commission did (of course you do) and simply ignore this inconvenient fact?
If so, what does that say about you?

Dear widdle danny BOY o'meara,

Not a "couple of aisles over," but one aisle over, between the third and fourth windows from the corner of the building. (The first and second windows were inside Oswald's Sniper's Nest.)

The fact that Bonnie Ray set his used lunch bag on top of a stack of boxes, probably while on his way down to the fifth floor, seems suspicious to you?

How long have you been paranoiac, widdle danny BOY o'meara?

Perhaps you should get professional help.

-- Tom

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2025, 09:55:14 AM »
Dear widdle danny BOY o'meara,

Not a "couple of aisles over," but one aisle over, between the third and fourth windows from the corner of the building. (The first and second windows were inside Oswald's Sniper's Nest.)

The fact that Bonnie Ray set his used lunch bag on top of a stack of boxes, probably while on his way down to the fifth floor, seems suspicious to you?

How long have you been paranoiac, widdle danny BOY o'meara?

Perhaps you should get professional help.

-- Tom

It's tiring having to deal with your lack of basic knowledge about this case.
The two wheeler truck, where Bonnie Ray's lunch remains were photographed by Studebaker, is at the end of the third aisle over from Houston, in front of the third set of windows from the east side of the building. Ball mistakenly refers to each set of windows as a single window and, because he represents the Warren Commission, you have just swallowed it down without question.
In order for Bonnie Ray to casually leave his lunch remains ON TOP of the Sniper's Nest on his way down to the 5th floor, he would have to walk all the way to the end of the third aisle from Houston Street, take a right, walk over two aisles and then walk all the way down the first aisle to the Sniper's Nest, leave his lunch on top of the Sniper's Nest, turn around, walk all the way down the first aisle then all the way across the back of the building to the northwest corner.

Your belief that the two wheeler truck was in the aisle next to the Sniper's Nest is incorrect.
The question still remains - how did Bonnie Ray's lunch remains end up on top of the Sniper's Nest if he had his lunch in the third aisle along?
You have clearly checked the Statements/testimonies of the first officers on the scene who reported the lunch remains on top of the SN.
You accept that the lunch remains were initially found there.
But you have failed to explain how they got there.


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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2025, 11:06:46 AM »
It's tiring having to deal with your lack of basic knowledge about this case. The two-wheeler truck, where Bonnie Ray's lunch remains were photographed by Studebaker, is at the end of the third aisle over from Houston, in front of the third set of windows from the east side of the building. Ball mistakenly refers to each set of windows as a single window and, because he represents the Warren Commission, you have just swallowed it down without question. In order for Bonnie Ray to casually leave his lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest on his way down to the 5th floor, he would have to walk all the way to the end of the third aisle from Houston Street, take a right, walk over two aisles and then walk all the way down the first aisle to the Sniper's Nest, leave his lunch on top of the Sniper's Nest, turn around, walk all the way down the first aisle then all the way across the back of the building to the northwest corner. Your belief that the two wheeler truck was in the aisle next to the Sniper's Nest is incorrect. The question still remains - how did Bonnie Ray's lunch remains end up on top of the Sniper's Nest if he had his lunch in the third aisle along? You have clearly checked the Statements/testimonies of the first officers on the scene who reported the lunch remains on top of the SN. You accept that the lunch remains were initially found there. But you have failed to explain how they got there.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Williams' labeling the windows he ate lunch near as "W3" and "W4" on the floor plan was grossly inaccurate?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=227&search=sixth

-- Tom
« Last Edit: November 25, 2025, 11:18:35 AM by Tom Graves »

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2025, 09:37:01 AM »
Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Williams' labeling the windows he ate lunch near as "W3" and "W4" on the floor plan was grossly inaccurate?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=227&search=sixth

-- Tom

 ::) Oh brother...doing your research for you is a drag.
It isn't Williams who labels the windows, it's Ball.
Bonnie Ray refers to 'sets' of windows:

Mr. WILLIAMS. I ate my lunch-1 am not sure about this, but the third or the  fourth set of windows, I believe.

NOT the third or fourth window...the third or fourth set of windows.
Bonnie Ray is saying that he sat in the third or fourth aisle over from Houston Street, as each aisle ends in a set of windows.
Each set of windows comprises of two windows but Ball, one of your heroes, mistakenly starts referring to each set of double windows as a single window, so you blindly follow his lead. That's why he labels each set of windows "W3" etc.

Luckily, because I do actual research, I'm aware of Studebaker's testimony in which he informs us, in detail, where the two wheeler is situated. It is at the end of the third aisle along from the Houston Street side of the building. It is in front of the third set of windows.

It doesn't matter though.
It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented showing how wrong you are.
You have demonstrated that you are just one of those guys whose mind is made up and no amount of evidence is going to change that.
Your incredibly weak attempt at explaining how Bonnie Ray's lunch remains were initially discovered ON TOP OF THE SNIPER'S NEST has failed. You will just make some other nonsense up or stick to your original nonsense, no matter what.
The one thing you will not do is consider the importance of this, seemingly innocuous, piece of evidence.

Just for laughs, here's what Studebaker has to say:

"I believe that's in the third aisle and let's see what it is marked - it's the sixth floor of 411 Elm Street looking south and the third aisle from Houston Street on the south side of the building. That was taken looking directly into that - this is the sack with those chicken bones and all that mess was in there too."

Mr. BALL. That's the third row over?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. That's the third aisle from Houston Street.
Mr. BALL. That would be the third set of windows?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. That would be the third set of windows - it would be - one, two, three.
Mr. BALL. The third set of windows from Houston Street - you mark it.
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes


Do some research.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2025, 09:38:17 AM by Dan O'meara »

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2025, 09:41:28 AM »
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Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Whose lunch bag did Kent Biffle find under the two-wheeler, not far from the empty bottle of Dr. Pepper two "sets" of windows over from Oswald's window, which lunch bag had chicken bones, a bit of Frito corn chip and some wax paper according to DPD Crime Scene Investigator Robert Lee Studebaker?

-- Tom
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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2025, 09:13:31 AM »
Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Whose lunch bag did Kent Biffle find under the two-wheeler, not far from the empty bottle of Dr. Pepper two "sets" of windows over from Oswald's window, which lunch bag had chicken bones, a bit of Frito corn chip and some wax paper according to DPD Crime Scene Investigator Robert Lee Studebaker?

-- Tom

So, you've abandoned your silly notion that Bonnie Ray had his lunch in the third aisle then casually strolled over to the Sniper's Nest and left his lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest on his way to the 5th floor.
You are correct to abandon it, as it was nonsense.
The lunch remains found by the two-wheeler are Bonnie Ray's lunch remains. Studebaker is clear that there was only one set of lunch remains found on the 6th floor.
This is the problem, which I have no doubt you are going to continue ducking - HOW IS IT THESE SAME LUNCH REMAINS WERE INITIALLY DISCOVERED ON TOP OF THE SNIPER'S NEST?

The lunch remains photographed by Studebaker by the two-wheeler, at the end of the third aisle, in front of the third set of windows from Houston Street, were initially discovered by Luke Mooney ON TOP of the Sniper's Nest. Luke Mooney was the  officer who discovered the SN, the first person on that scene after the shooting.
This means two things:
1] When Bonnie Ray finished his lunch he left the remains of the lunch on top of the Sniper's Nest. Why would he do that?
2] These lunch remains were removed from the Sniper's Nest and placed by the two-wheeler truck shortly after their discovery. Who did that and why?

Five of the first officers on the scene after Mooney described the lunch remains as being in the area of the Sniper's Nest. At least two of these officers, along with Mooney, describe the lunch remains ON TOP of the SN.

Bonnie Ray testified that he had his lunch by the two-wheeler truck.
But his lunch remains were found on top of the Sniper's Nest, some 30 feet away.
By the time Fritz was on the scene these lunch remains had been removed and placed by the two-wheeler truck.

What is going on here?
Why did the Warren Commission Sham completely ignore the testimony/statements of the six officers who discovered the lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest?
Are you also going to ignore their testimony?



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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2025, 09:35:13 AM »
The lunch remains found by the two-wheeler are Bonnie Ray's lunch remains.

Studebaker is clear that there was only one set of lunch remains found on the 6th floor.

How is it these same lunch remains were initially discovered on top of the Sniper's Nest?

The lunch remains photographed by Studebaker by the two-wheeler at the end of the third aisle, in front of the third set of windows from Houston Street, were initially discovered by Luke Mooney on top of the Sniper's Nest.

This means two things:

1] When Bonnie Ray finished his lunch, he left the remains on top of the Sniper's Nest. Why would he do that?

2] These lunch remains were removed from the Sniper's Nest and placed by the two-wheeler truck shortly after their discovery. Who did that and why?

Five of the first officers on the scene after [after what? Mooney described the lunch remains as being in the area of the Sniper's Nest. At least two of these officers, along with Mooney, describe the lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest.

Bonnie Ray testified that he had his lunch by the two-wheeler truck, but his lunch remains were found on top of the Sniper's Nest, some 30 feet away.

By the time Fritz was on the scene, these lunch remains had been removed and placed by the two-wheeler truck.

What is going on here?

Why did the Warren Commission completely ignore the testimony/statements of the six officers who discovered the lunch remains on top of the Sniper's Nest?

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Where did Billy Ray Williams eat his lunch?

Inside the Sniper's Nest?

-- Tom
« Last Edit: November 27, 2025, 12:28:47 PM by Tom Graves »

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