Dan:
It is understood amongst credible researchers that Lovelady & Shelley were gotten to lie and push back their departure time from the front steps to 3 minutes after the shots in order to make Victoria Adams look silly and to destroy her witnessing of Oswald not being on the Northwest steps when the official story needed him to be...There's some basic rules of evidence you are violating here...We can see Lovelady & Shelley fast-walking up the extension in Couch/Darnell so therefore visual film evidence trumps testimony and shows that Lovelady & Shelley left the steps around 20 seconds after the shots when they were inspired by Calvery to go up to the Knoll and see for themselves...You are violating the rules of evidence as well as rational thought because we can see Lovelady & Shelley going up the extension in Couch/Darnell and it tells us what the true version is...
Brian,
It is not understood amongst credible researchers that Shelley and Lovelady were made to lie about departure time from the steps.
Your notion that it was done to discredit Adams' testimony is truly ridiculous for a number of very basic, common sense reasons.
Your insistence that couch/Darnell shows Shelley and Lovelady is based on a single, doctored image.
There is no version of Couch or Darnell from which Shelley and Lovelady can be identified. If you believe there is then post it or cite it.
Show some actual evidence to back up your claims. That is all you are being asked to do.
Your credibility as a researcher hangs on the quality of the evidence you provide to support your claims.
You seem to imagine that you can just keep stating a thing and that makes it valid. This is clearly not the case.
Other than the doctored Sprague image, post another image from which we can identify Shelley and Lovelady.
OTHERWISE, JUST ADMIT THAT YOUR OPINION IS BASED SOLELY ON THE SPRAGUE IMAGE.
The version Bart Kamp used was the Sprague copy...Obviously Sprague used the best enhancement technology of his day which was probably limited to brightness and zoom...One thing is clear though, Sprague used the original celluloid films as his source, as is evidenced by the fact Kamp was able to get the best detail in his enhancements...That best source that Kamp accessed was able to produce the visible details seen on Lovelady & Shelley as well as Lovelady's bald spot...Lovelady's plaid pattern is a geometric match and matches his plaid shirt pattern precisely...That is a dead-lock that makes the sincerity of what you offer suspect...No serious researcher would doubt the men being Lovelady & Shelley at that point...
This thread is about the validity of the single image you base your incorrect opinion on.
ALL EVIDENCE relating to this issue, other than the doctored Sprague image, refutes the identification of Shelley and Lovelady on the extension..
Where does that leave your credibility as a researcher?
The Sprague image is incredibly dubious.
Kamp himself admits that the image contains very little information (it is an incredibly poor image) apart from the incredible detail of Lovelady's shirt and bald patch!!
How is that possible
The Prayer Man cult was founded on the dubious manipulation of photographic images and if you have a look at what Kamp is doing with AI recently...
It is physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to have been that far down the extension within 20 seconds if they had an interaction with Gloria on the steps.
To suggest otherwise lacks credibility and requires a heavy dose of gullibility.
