How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #140 on: November 11, 2025, 11:12:12 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

Holland did find an old painted-over shallow dent on the top of the mast arm near its juncture with the signal box.

I thought you knew that.

Regardless, based on the fine work of Roselle and Scearce, I think Oswald fired his first, missing-everything, shot about a second later at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 after a 17-second, film-saving pause.

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   Sure I knew. But how about telling the WHOLE STORY. Holland originally claimed a bullet bounced off of the traffic signal itself. When an examination of the signal failed to show anything, he then took a fine tooth comb to the support arm. There he found a mere ding, which could easily have been the result of a very common Southern hail storm. Same old double standard being applied here. Anything claiming to support a shot from the sniper's nest gets an automatic free pass.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #141 on: November 11, 2025, 11:26:07 PM »
Sure I knew. But how about telling the WHOLE STORY. Holland originally claimed a bullet bounced off of the traffic signal itself. When an examination of the signal failed to show anything, he then took a fine tooth comb to the support arm. There he found a mere ding, which could easily have been the result of a very common Southern hail storm. Same old double standard being applied here. Anything claiming to support a shot from the sniper's nest gets an automatic free pass.

Dear Comrade Storing,

What makes you think I think Holland's theory is correct?

Why are you obsessing on Holland's theory?

You do realize, don't you, that Roselle and Scearce's hypothetical "Z-124" is about a second after Holland's hypothetical "Z-107"?

You do realize, don't you, that Brian Roselle has shown that it was possible that James Tague was nicked by a piece of concrete struck off the curb by a largish bullet fragment from the Z-313 head shot?

-- Tom

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #142 on: November 11, 2025, 11:44:36 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

What makes you think I think Holland's theory is correct?

Why are you obsessing on Holland's theory?

You do realize, don't you, that Roselle and Scearce's hypothetical "Z-124" is about a second after Holland's hypothetical "Z-107"?

You do realize, don't you, that Brian Roselle has shown that it was possible that James Tague was nicked by a piece of concrete struck off the curb by a largish bullet fragment from the Z-313 head shot?

-- Tom

 Or maybe Tague's injury was the result of a shot fired from the, "Bushes/Shrubs/The Garden"?
 That car had No Reason to be rolling down the Elm St Ext while the JFK Limo was under fire on Elm St. That car had No Reason to still be parked in a "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone, long after traffic was freely rolling down Elm St. That Car was a, "Getaway Car"!

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #143 on: November 11, 2025, 11:55:48 PM »
Or maybe Tague's injury was the result of a shot fired from the, "Bushes/Shrubs/The Garden"? That car had no reason to be rolling down the Elm Street Extension while the JFK limo was under fire on Elm Street. That car had no reason to still be parked in a "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone, long after traffic was freely rolling down Elm Street. That car was a "Getaway Car"!

Dear Comrade Storing,

1) The lead-and-antimony smear on the curb had no copper in it.

2) "Getaway Car" or Getaway Car?

-- Tom




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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #144 on: November 12, 2025, 05:25:21 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

1) The lead-and-antimony smear on the curb had no copper in it.

2) "Getaway Car" or Getaway Car?

-- Tom

    With respect to Holland's "The Lost Bullet", that "lost bullet" is alleged to have struck the signal light support beam and then caromed down to the curb near Tague. Are you refuting this Holland claim?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #145 on: November 13, 2025, 02:05:20 AM »
With respect to Holland's "The Lost Bullet", that "lost bullet" is alleged to have struck the signal light support beam and then caromed down to the curb near Tague. Are you refuting this Holland claim?

Dear Comrade Storing,

I think it's more likely that Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot occurred at Roselle's and Scearce's hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second film-saving pause) at Z-133, and that the curb (and therefore Tague) was nicked by a largish bullet fragment from Oswald's Z-313 fatal head shot.

I hope that's okay with you, Comrade Storing.

-- Tom
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #146 on: November 13, 2025, 06:15:07 AM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

I think it's more likely that Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot occurred at Roselle's and Scearce's hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second film-saving pause) at Z-133, and that the curb (and therefore Tague) was nicked by a largish bullet fragment from Oswald's Z-313 fatal head shot.

I hope that's okay with you, Comrade Storing.

-- Tom

     You have the Tague curb being struck by, "....a largish BULLET fragment...". Yet, you also claim there was "no copper" in the smear on the same curb. How do you make both claims work?