How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2025, 02:43:28 AM »
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Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

    My only reservation is the Neck. If I was asked to describe Lovelady, I would lead off with his being somewhat on the "burly" side. This pictured guy has a skinny neck. And that skinny neck in relation to the pointed chin also does not remind me of Lovelady.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2025, 03:10:43 AM »
There isn't the slightest hint of a bald spot or checkered pattern in far-superior images of Lovelady.

Dear Dan "I Was A Bad Boy So They Made Me Stood In The Corner" O'meara,

When you say "far superior images" what "images" are you referring to?

Martin's and Hughes' film footages which show Lovelady as he's smoking on the TSBD steps about 30 minutes after the final shot?

The film footage showing him as he's sitting and watching the police bring Oswald past him a couple of hours after the final shot?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2025, 09:22:09 AM »
Dear Dan "I Was A Bad Boy So They Made Me Stood In The Corner" O'meara,

When you say "far superior images" what "images" are you referring to?

Martin's and Hughes' film footages which show Lovelady as he's smoking on the TSBD steps about 30 minutes after the final shot?

The film footage showing him as he's sitting and watching the police bring Oswald past him a couple of hours after the final shot?

-- Tom

What images am I referring to?
Are you joking?
I've got a feeling that you're not joking, which is quite disturbing.
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2025, 09:40:26 AM »
What images am I referring to?
Are you joking?
I've got a feeling that you're not joking, which is quite disturbing.
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Dear danny BOY o'meara,

I totally understand your inability to articulate what you're "thinking."

-- Tom
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2025, 11:08:46 AM »
Dear danny BOY o'meara,

I totally understand your inability to articulate what you're "thinking."

-- Tom

Are you high?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2025, 11:30:58 AM »
    My only reservation is the Neck. If I was asked to describe Lovelady, I would lead off with his being somewhat on the "burly" side. This pictured guy has a skinny neck. And that skinny neck in relation to the pointed chin also does not remind me of Lovelady.



It is not possible to make an identification of either man based solely on this image.
This is, by far, the highest quality image we have from the Couch footage and it reveals there is no checkered pattern on the shirt and no bald spot. These are the two factors people have been using to make the Lovelady identification and they are not present.

It appears Tommy the Troll's suggestion - that Kamp faked his Lovelady image - might have something to it.
So many people have been suckered in by that image even though it is humanly impossible for it to be Lovelady and Shelley walking along along the Elm St ext. in the time this image was taken, if you accept their WC testimonies. The only way Nutters like Mr Frodo and old man Payette can uphold this seriously flawed identification is by acknowledging that Shelley and Lovelady lied through their teeth during their WC testimonies.
Both of these Nutters have tied themselves up in knots trying to make it work and have come out looking like fools.

The old man has argued that Shelley and Lovelady met Gloria on the steps before they were pictured in Darnell AND HAS SIMULTANEOUSLY ARGUED that Shelley and Lovelady left the steps before Gloria got there!!
And Pinko has fabricated a scenario where Lovelady and Shelley immediately race from the steps and meet Gloria on the "little, old island".

Talk about prisoners of rational thought  ::)

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2025, 06:43:24 PM »
It appears that Kamp faked his Lovelady image.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

Gee, I wonder what kind of paintbrush Bart used to create that bald spot on "Lovelady's" head and those stripes in his shirt?

http://www.prayer-man.com/tsbd/billy-nolan-lovelady/

What's your best guess, danny BOY?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2025, 07:05:17 PM »


It is not possible to make an identification of either man based solely on this image.
This is, by far, the highest quality image we have from the Couch footage and it reveals there is no checkered pattern on the shirt and no bald spot. These are the two factors people have been using to make the Lovelady identification and they are not present.

It appears Tommy the Troll's suggestion - that Kamp faked his Lovelady image - might have something to it.
So many people have been suckered in by that image even though it is humanly impossible for it to be Lovelady and Shelley walking along along the Elm St ext. in the time this image was taken, if you accept their WC testimonies. The only way Nutters like Mr Frodo and old man Payette can uphold this seriously flawed identification is by acknowledging that Shelley and Lovelady lied through their teeth during their WC testimonies.
Both of these Nutters have tied themselves up in knots trying to make it work and have come out looking like fools.

The old man has argued that Shelley and Lovelady met Gloria on the steps before they were pictured in Darnell AND HAS SIMULTANEOUSLY ARGUED that Shelley and Lovelady left the steps before Gloria got there!!
And Pinko has fabricated a scenario where Lovelady and Shelley immediately race from the steps and meet Gloria on the "little, old island".

Talk about prisoners of rational thought  ::)

  There also was the claim that Calvery ran up to DPD Officer Smith and told him about shots being fired through the bushes BEFORE veering over to then yammer at Lovelady and Shelley.
  Getting back to Lovelady and Shelley going down the Elm St Ext, I do believe the Couch Film is more likely than not supplying evidence of this being Lovelady/Shelley. If I was on a jury, I wouldn't convict Lovelady and Shelley using this Couch Film to ID them. But I do find it difficult to believe that: (1) Immediately after the Kill Shot, (2) 2 random guys that just happen to resemble Lovelady and Shelley, (3) Decided to meander down the Elm St Ext. That's just too big a stretch for me to buy into.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2025, 07:05:17 PM »