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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #392 on: Yesterday at 11:37:00 PM »
The TSBD front entrance door swings both ways so it was probably swung inwards if a lot of people were going in along with Baker.

There might be an issue with the front desk area by Truly office as a bottleneck because it required a part of the counter top to be swung open but I’m not certain if it was locked or not. Probably was not,  as Truly would be fumbling for a key.

None the less, it was closed when Truly got there and he had to open it so he and Baker could go thru. It’s in Truly WC testimony somewhere about them getting delayed at this countertop area by Trulys office.

This might explain the gap of time between Lovelady/Shelley seeing Adams and Styles going past the elevators while Truly/Baker did not.


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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #393 on: Today at 12:15:27 AM »
The TSBD front entrance door swings both ways so it was probably swung inwards if a lot of people were going in along with Baker.

There might be an issue with the front desk area by Truly office as a bottleneck because it required a part of the counter top to be swung open but I’m not certain if it was locked or not. Probably was not,  as Truly would be fumbling for a key.

None the less, it was closed when Truly got there and he had to open it so he and Baker could go thru. It’s in Truly WC testimony somewhere about them getting delayed at this countertop area by Trulys office.

This might explain the gap of time between Lovelady/Shelley seeing Adams and Styles going past the elevators while Truly/Baker did not.

   Based on the accepted timeline, Lovelady/Shelley have :35 to get back to the far corner/Stairwell on the TSBD 1st Floor. And Lovelady is Not even facing the TSBD at the beginning of this :35 second mark. If I am to accept they went through the TSBD front door, the timelines have to be reset/extended. I do Not believe we are seeing Officer Baker running across the Island at :20 Seconds after the kill shot. These timelines have been Quickened/Manipulated in order for Officer Baker to glimpse Oswald on the other side of the vestibule door leading into the 2nd Floor lunchroom.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
« Reply #394 on: Today at 12:16:29 AM »
Your only counter-argument is that Baker should have seen Shelley and Lovelady ahead of him??
You seem to imagine that the first floor is a wide open, empty space.
It's nothing of the sort.
You also seem to imagine that everyone travelled in the same straight, diagonal line that led directly from the entrance of the first floor to the elevators. (What makes you think they travelled in a diagonal line anyway?)
I can't help it if you have no idea how cluttered this space was.
At least you've grasped the concept that Shelley and Lovelady could just move into this space while Baker and Truly were interacting in the lobby.
As I said, it's not a difficult concept to grasp.
Your counter-argument is really weak which is very telling.
You are having a problem visualising what is happening because you imagine the first floor to be empty. Once you grasp how cluttered it was it might become clear why Baker didn't see Shelley and Lovelady near the back of the first floor.



So, that's your main counter-argument dealt with.
What else do you have?

Also, why would Lovelady/Shelley want to go to the freight elevators and then just lay around there?


Lay around there?
What are you talking about?
What are you imagining?
That the first floor is this wide open, empty space with a few hammocks in it?
It's hard to discuss these issues with someone who can't grasp the basic realities of the situation.
What makes it even harder is that you never pay attention to what anyone else is posting.
Look back a few Replies and you'll see I posted this:

The question is - what were they up to?

What were they covering up?

What is there, towards the back of the first floor, that could be so important?


It has been demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that Shelley and Lovelady lied about their movements.
The lied to cover up their real movements.
They lied to cover up the fact that they immediately made their way towards the back of the first floor where they were seen by Adams and Baker.
That they lied is not up for debate.

My opinion is that Adams/Styles got their timeline screwed up.

The reason your opinion is wrong is because it is based solely on the lies of Shelley and Lovelady.

They literally have no reason to be there at that point in time. None.

You literally have no idea if that is true.
Just because you can't imagine what they are up to doesn't mean anything.
They were witnessed in that area approximately 50 - 60 seconds after the shooting. Just because it's not clear what they were doing there doesn't mean they weren't witnessed there. That would be a crazy way to look at things.

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Re: Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.
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