Who Were the Two Men Heading *Down* the Stairs at NLT 12:50?

[John Mytton]

To put this issue into an easier to interpret format, I made a GIF of the Darnell film and as can be seen, the Motorbike cop who is Haygood is on the move and covering a lot of ground quickly, and the other Police Officer who is supposedly Harkness isn't stationary but simply came up to the bollard boundary and turned around and equally moved away at speed.
And let's remember that Dealey Plaza isn't very big and the distance covered by Haygood wasn't very far and easily achievable in a couple of minutes.  I think it was Charles in an earlier post, calculated the distance that Haygood travelled to be about 700 feet which is a little over 2 football fields, so yeah, not very far at all. Just checkout how fast Haygood is moving in the following GIF!

It's like the Tippit shooting, Oswald had enough time to reach Tippit and they both arrived at Patton and Tenth at the same time and likewise here, Haygood had enough time to do his round and arrive back at his bike to make his call.

After rereading the entirety of the relevant posts, this entire "mystery" relies on self serving timing interpretations, Royell's initial four minute Haygood timeline to reach the top of the Triple Underpass is the obvious example of one of his exaggerations and it all goes downhill from there.



JohnM

[Royell Storing]

To put this issue into an easier to interpret format, I made a GIF of the Darnell film and as can be seen, the Motorbike cop who is Haygood is on the move and covering a lot of ground quickly, and the other Police Officer who is supposedly Harkness isn't stationary but simply came up to the bollard boundary and turned around and equally moved away at speed.
And let's remember that Dealey Plaza isn't very big and the distance covered by Haygood wasn't very far and easily achievable in a couple of minutes.  I think it was Charles in an earlier post, calculated the distance that Haygood travelled to be about 700 feet which is a little over 2 football fields, so yeah, not very far at all. Just checkout how fast Haygood is moving in the following GIF!

It's like the Tippit shooting, Oswald had enough time to reach Tippit and they both arrived at Patton and Tenth at the same time and likewise here, Haygood had enough time to do his round and arrive back at his bike to make his call.

After rereading the entirety of the relevant posts, this entire "mystery" relies on self serving timing interpretations, Royell's initial four minute Haygood timeline to reach the top of the Triple Underpass is the obvious example of one of his exaggerations and it all goes downhill from there.



JohnM

   You've missed the KEY timeline involved. The dagger. That is the Officer Harkness timeline. Harkness details this in his WC Testimony. Harkness made a documented 12:36 police radio transmission. He basically said that he had a witness/Euins and that he was bringing him to the TSBD. (Martin Film). Harkness then helped load the witness/Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car which was parked in front of the TSBD. At this point, Harkness was instructed to secure the back of the TSBD.
 
    Recap  ***   12:36 - Harkness makes radio transmission saying "here I come".  12:37 - Harkness helps load Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car. 12:38 - Harkness is filmed with "Haygood?" behind the TSBD.
     It is physically impossible for Darnell to have  filmed Haygood with Harkness behind the TSBD. At 12:35, Haygood made a transmission from his motorcycle near the Triple Underpass. Haygood then stayed there interviewing witnesses. Couch documented Haygood remaining close to his motorcycle, when he filmed his 2nd trip down Elm St. Haygood is included in that 2nd Elm St run that was filmed by Couch. "The Nutty Professor" has also proffered a photo showing Harkness near his motorcycle during this same time period. We are Not seeing Officer Haygood with Officer Harkness on the Darnell Film. That motorcycle cop is not Haygood. It's physically impossible for Haygood to be in 2 different places at the same time.     

[Royell Storing]

  Correction- "HAYGOOD near his motorcycle during this same time period"

[Royell Storing]

RS:  I am talking about the dirt road portion of the Elm St Extension.

So why did you bring up the limo turn and traffic signal in the Wegman film?

there are NO BOLLARDS between Officer Harkness and this alleged motorcycle cop.

Yes there are! Not only can you see many of them in the Darnell film, others are made obvious when the motorcycle cop walks behind them.

Here, bollards are outlined in red. Note that one is in Harkness' shadow:


Here, "B" marks where the line of bollards is. You can see that two of them are silhouetted by the MC as he walks behind them:


Here he is a half step later:

        On the (R) we see Officer Harkness.  This is his timeline.

           12:36 - Officer Harkness makes a radio transmission that he is bringing an eyewitness/Amos Euins to the TSBD.

           12:37 - Officer Harkness helps load Amos Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car in front of the TSBD

           12:38 - Officer Harkness secures the back of the TSBD. (This is where we see him above in Darnell Film still frame)

                  It is physically impossible for the motorcycle officer above to be Officer Haygood. Officer Haygood was back at his motorcycle near the Triple Underpass at 12:38 conducting interviews. This was filmed/documented by Mal Couch. "The Nutty Professor" has also submitted a photo which further documents Motorcycle Officer Haygood being near the Triple Underpass during this same time period. The motorcycle cop above is Not Officer Haygood. That is physically impossible. Motorcycle Officer Haygood can NOT be in 2 places at the same time.

[Tommy Shanks]

Motorcycle Officer Haygood can NOT be in 2 places at the same time.

Royell Storing, Ralph Cinque and Jack White could not be in one place at the same time because they'd be arguing about which one was the altered versions of the original and which one was the spy doppelganger from Eastern Europe.

[Royell Storing]

Royell Storing, Ralph Cinque and Jack White could not be in one place at the same time because they'd be arguing about which one was the altered versions of the original and which one was the spy doppelganger from Eastern Europe.

    I proffer Official Timelines. You? You instead go the insult route. Why? You simply can Not refute the official timelines that I have researched. How about you do some legit JFK Assassination Research? Show this forum some Evidence. Show this forum some Proof. I am waiting on you.