Who Were the Two Men Heading *Down* the Stairs at NLT 12:50?

[John Corbett]

   "Another cop"? When we 1st see him on the Darnell Film, he is deep inside the railroad yard, WALKING along the string of passenger train cars. When we last see him, he is leaving the railroad yard and WALKING toward/down the Elm St Ext. If this guy is really "another cop", where is his 2 Wheel Motorcycle? This "No Glove Cop"was Never attached to a 2 Wheel motorcycle. He is an impostor and heading toward the TSBD.

Keep telling yourself that and maybe someday it will come true. Don't forget to tap your ruby slippers together.

[John Mytton]

Either an impostor or another cop whose name you don't know. I know which one I am betting on.

Royell is part of the old guard and has been studying this case for many decades and since he and his clan have not found even a sliver of evidence for conspiracy, they are now reduced to making outlandish claims on whatever morsel they can find.

But here, at the end of the day, having an "imposter" officer parading around nearly five minutes later while wearing a helmet which sticks out like dogs proverbials goes where exactly?
What narrative actually fits an easy to find "imposter" suddenly turning up and taking off a glove and still walking around five minutes later? It's absurd!

JohnM

[Royell Storing]

Royell is part of the old guard and has been studying this case for many decades and since he and his clan have not found even a sliver of evidence for conspiracy, they are now reduced to making outlandish claims on whatever morsel they can find.

But here, at the end of the day, having an "imposter" officer parading around nearly five minutes later while wearing a helmet which sticks out like dogs proverbials goes where exactly?
What narrative actually fits an easy to find "imposter" suddenly turning up and taking off a glove and still walking around five minutes later? It's absurd!

JohnM

    The above presents absolutely nothing to refute what I have proven. It is physically impossible for both Haygood and Harkness to be filmed together at 12:34 PM. We are Not seeing Motorcycle Officer Haygood on the Darnell Film.
    The above claims this impostor was, "easy to find". If this were the case, why am I the only person to Ever discover that this charlatan was masquerading as a DPD Motorcycle Officer?
     Regarding a narrative that fits this impostor, it's "crowd control". If you notice, the impostor paralleled Buddy Walthers and Roger Craig. He steadily stayed between them and the string of train cars. We can Not see inside those train cars. The train car windows do not permit seeing inside the passenger train cars from the outside. Do we know specifically what was inside each of those train cars following the kill shot? Have any of you seen any images of the inside of those train cars after the kill shot? I haven't. I also have Not seen any images of the other side of this string of train cars either. And, the top of those passenger train cars is a very high ground position relative to Elm St. And, Zapruder and Bill Newman reported shot(s) being fired from behind them. The string of passenger train cars were behind Zapruder and Bill Newman. A possible high ground firing position from inside the railroad yard was posed by Josiah Thompson when he interviewed Sitzman in 1966.

[John Mytton]

    The above presents absolutely nothing to refute what I have proven. It is physically impossible for both Haygood and Harkness to be filmed together at 12:34 PM. We are Not seeing Motorcycle Officer Haygood on the Darnell Film.
    The above claims this impostor was, "easy to find". If this were the case, why am I the only person to Ever discover that this charlatan was masquerading as a DPD Motorcycle Officer?
     Regarding a narrative that fits this impostor, it's "crowd control". If you notice, the impostor paralleled Buddy Walthers and Roger Craig. He steadily stayed between them and the string of train cars. We can Not see inside those train cars. The train car windows do not permit seeing inside the passenger train cars from the outside. Do we know specifically what was inside each of those train cars following the kill shot? Have any of you seen any images of the inside of those train cars after the kill shot? I haven't. I also have Not seen any images of the other side of this string of train cars either. And, the top of those passenger train cars is a very high ground position relative to Elm St. And, Zapruder and Bill Newman reported shot(s) being fired from behind them. The string of passenger train cars were behind Zapruder and Bill Newman. A possible high ground firing position from inside the railroad yard was posed by Josiah Thompson when he interviewed Sitzman in 1966.

Regarding a narrative that fits this impostor, it's "crowd control". If you notice, the impostor paralleled Buddy Walthers and Roger Craig.

Let me get this straight, the "imposter" Motorcycle Police Officer hung around and helped local law enforcement, and essentially did the job of a Police Officer? It's wonderful that this "imposter" was trained to do the job of a Police Officer!

He steadily stayed between them and the string of train cars.

Now you're going off at a completely tangent, how does this tie into the "imposter" doing his Police duties and helping the Sheriff's Deputies do "crowd control"? Or are you saying that five minutes later which was more than enough time for your "train car assassins" to escape, that the "imposter" was guiding the deputies away from the train cars?

We can Not see inside those train cars. The train car windows do not permit seeing inside the passenger train cars from the outside. Do we know specifically what was inside each of those train cars following the kill shot? Have any of you seen any images of the inside of those train cars after the kill shot? I haven't. I also have Not seen any images of the other side of this string of train cars either.

But didn't the three tramps come from a railyard boxcar, which means that not long after the boxcars were searched?







BTW, when I said provide a narrative, I meant a plausible narrative, you know like the official narrative which is supported by a Mountain of Evidence where a Lone Nut simply took his rifle to work and killed the President!

JohnM 

[Royell Storing]

  The "Three Tramps" photos were 2+ hrs after the kill shot. Not remotely close to the time of the assassination. And, the "Three Tramps" were found inside a BOX CAR, not a PASSENGER TRAIN CAR.
   You think the the impostor, "did the job of a police officer"? I guess he fooled you too. By paralleling Walthers and Craig, he gave them the false impression that he had the "securing" of the string of passenger train cars under control. Walthers and Roger Craig never made a move in the direction of those passenger train cars. Which is why this imposture was positioned back there. "Crowd Control" inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 included keeping law enforcement under "control". 

[John Mytton]

To put this issue into an easier to interpret format, I made a GIF of the Darnell film and as can be seen, the Motorbike cop who is Haygood is on the move and covering a lot of ground quickly, and the other Police Officer who is supposedly Harkness isn't stationary but simply came up to the bollard boundary and turned around and equally moved away at speed.
And let's remember that Dealey Plaza isn't very big and the distance covered by Haygood wasn't very far and easily achievable in a couple of minutes.  I think it was Charles in an earlier post, calculated the distance that Haygood travelled to be about 700 feet which is a little over 2 football fields, so yeah, not very far at all. Just checkout how fast Haygood is moving in the following GIF!

It's like the Tippit shooting, Oswald had enough time to reach Tippit and they both arrived at Patton and Tenth at the same time and likewise here, Haygood had enough time to do his round and arrive back at his bike to make his call.

After rereading the entirety of the relevant posts, this entire "mystery" relies on self serving timing interpretations, Royell's initial four minute Haygood timeline to reach the top of the Triple Underpass is the obvious example of one of his exaggerations and it all goes downhill from there.



JohnM

[Royell Storing]

To put this issue into an easier to interpret format, I made a GIF of the Darnell film and as can be seen, the Motorbike cop who is Haygood is on the move and covering a lot of ground quickly, and the other Police Officer who is supposedly Harkness isn't stationary but simply came up to the bollard boundary and turned around and equally moved away at speed.
And let's remember that Dealey Plaza isn't very big and the distance covered by Haygood wasn't very far and easily achievable in a couple of minutes.  I think it was Charles in an earlier post, calculated the distance that Haygood travelled to be about 700 feet which is a little over 2 football fields, so yeah, not very far at all. Just checkout how fast Haygood is moving in the following GIF!

It's like the Tippit shooting, Oswald had enough time to reach Tippit and they both arrived at Patton and Tenth at the same time and likewise here, Haygood had enough time to do his round and arrive back at his bike to make his call.

After rereading the entirety of the relevant posts, this entire "mystery" relies on self serving timing interpretations, Royell's initial four minute Haygood timeline to reach the top of the Triple Underpass is the obvious example of one of his exaggerations and it all goes downhill from there.



JohnM

   You've missed the KEY timeline involved. The dagger. That is the Officer Harkness timeline. Harkness details this in his WC Testimony. Harkness made a documented 12:36 police radio transmission. He basically said that he had a witness/Euins and that he was bringing him to the TSBD. (Martin Film). Harkness then helped load the witness/Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car which was parked in front of the TSBD. At this point, Harkness was instructed to secure the back of the TSBD.
 
    Recap  ***   12:36 - Harkness makes radio transmission saying "here I come".  12:37 - Harkness helps load Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car. 12:38 - Harkness is filmed with "Haygood?" behind the TSBD.
     It is physically impossible for Darnell to have  filmed Haygood with Harkness behind the TSBD. At 12:35, Haygood made a transmission from his motorcycle near the Triple Underpass. Haygood then stayed there interviewing witnesses. Couch documented Haygood remaining close to his motorcycle, when he filmed his 2nd trip down Elm St. Haygood is included in that 2nd Elm St run that was filmed by Couch. "The Nutty Professor" has also proffered a photo showing Harkness near his motorcycle during this same time period. We are Not seeing Officer Haygood with Officer Harkness on the Darnell Film. That motorcycle cop is not Haygood. It's physically impossible for Haygood to be in 2 different places at the same time.