The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)

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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2025, 06:52:29 PM »
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  Below, the B/W photo of the parking lot is suspect. On the (L), where did that double sprig tree between the Pergola and the N-S Picket Fence come from?
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2025, 06:56:07 PM »
Regarding the pergola on the opposite side of the street, what's the building indicated by the red arrow? It's not the Post Office building.



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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2025, 08:06:04 PM »
  Below, the B/W photo of the parking lot is suspect. On the (L), where did that double sprig tree between the Pergola and the N-S Picket Fence come from?
Alteration City! "They" not only altered the Z film and JFK's body, but they actually added - or maybe removed! - little trees from Dealey Plaza! I must admit, Mr. Skinny Tree is not clearly visible in any historical TSBD photo I could find in an exhaustive 5-minute search. The images below are the best I could do. (Is that perhaps Mr. ST lurking in the top photo?) On the other hand, as a proud former owner of a 1965 Pontiac GTO, one or more of the vehicles in the photo appear to be post-1963, so perhaps Mr. ST was planted later; I have a tree in my back yard that was a mere seedling two years ago and is now a pretty decent tree. Non-conspiratorial minds have to wonder what "they" would gain by doctoring obscure photos to add - or remove, or whatever - little trees?




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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2025, 08:29:57 PM »

  The Photo I questioned was in relation to the view of Lee Bowers from inside the railroad tower. The 2 Photos you posted have Nothing to do with that view that Bowers had.  In fact, both of the photos that you posted do Not include the area of that Double Sprig Tree that I questioned.

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2025, 09:04:44 PM »
  The Photo I questioned was in relation to the view of Lee Bowers from inside the railroad tower. The 2 Photos you posted have Nothing to do with that view that Bowers had.  In fact, both of the photos that you posted do Not include the area of that Double Sprig Tree that I questioned.
No, but the top one does show a veritable family of Double Sprig Trees in the immediate vicinity, which might suggest the Suspicious Double Sprig Tree is a member of the family, no? What are we supposed to be finding "suspect" about the tree?

Here is essentially the same view in a more modern photo, with the Suspicious Tree now Suspiciously Gone:

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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2025, 11:10:31 PM »
Regarding the pergola on the opposite side of the street, what's the building indicated by the red arrow? It's not the Post Office building.





Correct, the Post Office Building can be seen above the trees at the top of the image over towards the left side. I believe the building indicated by the red arrow is probably the one indicated by a yellow arrow in the following image:



That’s an “L” shaped building sitting over the top of the RR yard. I think that in the image with the red arrow, we are seeing the end of the building closest to Dealey Plaza. (That would be the opposite end of the building from where the yellow arrow is drawn.) I would draw the yellow arrow at that end of the building if I were doing it over again. But I currently see no real need for doing it over again.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2025, 01:23:27 AM »
No, but the top one does show a veritable family of Double Sprig Trees in the immediate vicinity, which might suggest the Suspicious Double Sprig Tree is a member of the family, no? What are we supposed to be finding "suspect" about the tree?

Here is essentially the same view in a more modern photo, with the Suspicious Tree now Suspiciously Gone:



    There was No "family" of sprigs in that area on 11/22/63. Interestingly, that is also the same alleged area that Gordon Arnold claimed to have been standing/filming

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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2025, 11:38:37 PM »
The attached image is derived from a stabilized short clip I made some time ago and realized that the “two sprigs” tree is visible in the gap between the West shelter and stockade fence. This area is paved now but may not have been in 1963. I stacked 18 frames focused on this little tree. After some processing it is difficult, but possible, to see the two sprigs- likely of a Yaupon Holly tree that is prevalent in Dealey Plaza. The timing for this clip is at most two weeks after November 22, as the memorials on the grass have not yet been relocated close to the pergola's concrete floor.



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