The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2025, 06:51:00 PM »
       If you believe that Bowers was controlling train cars on the other side of Commerce St without binoculars because he was Not questioned about this, that's "OK". Do you also believe Bowers controlled train cars without a walkie- talkie because he was Not questioned about using a walkie-talkie? The WC Q/A was routinely confined.
It isn't a matter of belief. He may have had a 100-power telescope for all I know. The fact is, in all his descriptions, from the WC to his Mark Lane interview, he never said anything to suggest he was using anything other than his naked eyes. He did indicate that the cars came quite close to the tower, which would explain his detailed observations of them. I have no reason to be skeptical of Bowers and scarcely regard him as a bombshell CT witness. He version of events did get somewhat better in the hands of Snake Oil Salesman No. 1 - that would be Mark Lane - and after his death he predictably became the subject of CT mythology about "what he REALLY saw but never told." I simply say he was paying remarkably close attention if he really saw all he said he did.

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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2025, 06:52:29 PM »
  Below, the B/W photo of the parking lot is suspect. On the (L), where did that double sprig tree between the Pergola and the N-S Picket Fence come from?
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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2025, 06:56:07 PM »
Regarding the pergola on the opposite side of the street, what's the building indicated by the red arrow? It's not the Post Office building.



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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2025, 08:06:04 PM »
  Below, the B/W photo of the parking lot is suspect. On the (L), where did that double sprig tree between the Pergola and the N-S Picket Fence come from?
Alteration City! "They" not only altered the Z film and JFK's body, but they actually added - or maybe removed! - little trees from Dealey Plaza! I must admit, Mr. Skinny Tree is not clearly visible in any historical TSBD photo I could find in an exhaustive 5-minute search. The images below are the best I could do. (Is that perhaps Mr. ST lurking in the top photo?) On the other hand, as a proud former owner of a 1965 Pontiac GTO, one or more of the vehicles in the photo appear to be post-1963, so perhaps Mr. ST was planted later; I have a tree in my back yard that was a mere seedling two years ago and is now a pretty decent tree. Non-conspiratorial minds have to wonder what "they" would gain by doctoring obscure photos to add - or remove, or whatever - little trees?




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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2025, 08:29:57 PM »

  The Photo I questioned was in relation to the view of Lee Bowers from inside the railroad tower. The 2 Photos you posted have Nothing to do with that view that Bowers had.  In fact, both of the photos that you posted do Not include the area of that Double Sprig Tree that I questioned.

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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2025, 09:04:44 PM »
  The Photo I questioned was in relation to the view of Lee Bowers from inside the railroad tower. The 2 Photos you posted have Nothing to do with that view that Bowers had.  In fact, both of the photos that you posted do Not include the area of that Double Sprig Tree that I questioned.
No, but the top one does show a veritable family of Double Sprig Trees in the immediate vicinity, which might suggest the Suspicious Double Sprig Tree is a member of the family, no? What are we supposed to be finding "suspect" about the tree?

Here is essentially the same view in a more modern photo, with the Suspicious Tree now Suspiciously Gone:

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Re: The area behind the picket fence (and a bit about Lee Bowers)
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2025, 11:10:31 PM »
Regarding the pergola on the opposite side of the street, what's the building indicated by the red arrow? It's not the Post Office building.





Correct, the Post Office Building can be seen above the trees at the top of the image over towards the left side. I believe the building indicated by the red arrow is probably the one indicated by a yellow arrow in the following image:



That’s an “L” shaped building sitting over the top of the RR yard. I think that in the image with the red arrow, we are seeing the end of the building closest to Dealey Plaza. (That would be the opposite end of the building from where the yellow arrow is drawn.) I would draw the yellow arrow at that end of the building if I were doing it over again. But I currently see no real need for doing it over again.
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