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The deformation of CE-399 adds credibility to the SBT

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Jack Nessan:

--- Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on August 28, 2025, 05:45:27 PM ---This is sheer comedy. Let me repeat the fact that in the WC's SBT test, bullets that were merely fired into cotton wadding emerged as deformed or more deformed than CE 399. Plus, are you aware that Connally's back wound showed no indication that it was made by a tumbling bullet, that the mortician said the back wound was about 6 inches below the throat wound, that the rear clothing holes put the back wound well below the throat wound, and that the most sophisticated SBT trajectory analysis ever done proves the SBT is impossible?

This is not to mention the fact that we know that no bullet exited the throat wound because there was no hole in the tie and because the front shirt slits had no fabric missing from them and had no metallic traces around, in addition to the fact that Dr. Carrico and one of the Parkland nurses confirmed that the nurses made the shirt slits.

Are you ever going to face the fact that there was no hole in the tie? Even if we assume a bullet exited the shirt slits, there is no way that bullet could have magically weaved around the body of the tie to nick the left side of the tie knot. Again, there was no hole in the tie, only a small nick near the left edge of the tie knot. This fact alone destroys the SBT.

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The bullet was yawing not tumbling. Cotton wad used to stop the bullet vs running out of energy. No exit wound on JFK.  If you don't know anything about the subject maybe don't post on the thread.

Royell Storing:

--- Quote from: Tom Graves on August 28, 2025, 12:39:23 AM ---Griffith,

What's the probability that your beloved testers were able to perfectly reenact CE-399's trajectory, angles of incidence, and velocity, etc., not to mention what it did after it exited JFK's throat and started tumbling (which we know from the Haags experiments viewable in "Cold Case JFK" and the oblong entry wound in JBC's back) so as to be able to recreate perfectly the way it was tumbling and twirling when it side-swiped JBC's radial bone?

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ERXm9OwuE
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   The above visual aid actually discredits the SBT. As pictured, that bullet's decline would Not permit it to clear the backrest of Gov Connally's jump seat.  Also, we see here another adjustment to history. This visual aid NOW has Connally leaning forward. Much like Max Holland NOW claiming that the elapsed time for the 3 shots was roughly 11 seconds, this adjustment to the SBT is another attempt to make a flawed "theory" work. And as usual, this cartoon has the bullet entering JFK's neck. That bullet entered JFK's BACK.

Tim Nickerson:

--- Quote from: Royell Storing on August 28, 2025, 09:47:07 PM ---   The above visual aid actually discredits the SBT. As pictured, that bullet's decline would Not permit it to clear the backrest of Gov Connally's jump seat.  Also, we see here another adjustment to history. This visual aid NOW has Connally leaning forward. Much like Max Holland NOW claiming that the elapsed time for the 3 shots was roughly 11 seconds, this adjustment to the SBT is another attempt to make a flawed "theory" work. And as usual, this cartoon has the bullet entering JFK's neck. That bullet entered JFK's BACK.

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The bullet's decline in that visual aid is 17.5 degrees. It would, and did, permit the bullet to clear the backrest of Gov Connally's jump seat. The bullet dropped about 8 inches between the entry point on JFK and the back of the backrest of Connally's jumpseat.

Royell Storing:

   Please watch the entire video. (1) The Bullet Enters the NECK (not the BACK), (2) The Bullet LEVELS off after exiting the throat, and (3) Gov Connally is leaning forward. Connally's back is not even close to the backrest.   And people want to argue with Knott Lab Forensic SCIENCE finding the SBT "Is Impossible"? This is what is required to do that. A Total Sham Presentation.

Mitch Todd:

--- Quote from: Royell Storing on August 28, 2025, 09:47:07 PM ---   The above visual aid actually discredits the SBT. As pictured, that bullet's decline would Not permit it to clear the backrest of Gov Connally's jump seat.  Also, we see here another adjustment to history. This visual aid NOW has Connally leaning forward. Much like Max Holland NOW claiming that the elapsed time for the 3 shots was roughly 11 seconds, this adjustment to the SBT is another attempt to make a flawed "theory" work. And as usual, this cartoon has the bullet entering JFK's neck. That bullet entered JFK's BACK.

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The "visual aid" clearly shows the bullet clearing the seat, if you actually bother to watch it.

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