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The deformation of CE-399 adds credibility to the SBT
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on August 01, 2025, 11:49:56 PM ---I'm just asking a simple question - what evidence supports the claim that the condition of CE399 "matches the injuries"?
What is the evidence?
Is there any?
Is it just an empty, unsupported claim?
The reason I ask this question is because,according to the Warren Commission, this is what a bullet looks like that's been fired into a wrist bone:
I'm sure you'll agree, it looks nothing like CE399.
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This is what a bullet looks like that's been fired into a wrist bone:
I'm sure you'll agree, it looks somewhat like CE-399.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Tim Nickerson on August 01, 2025, 11:58:27 PM ---This is what a bullet looks like that's been fired into a wrist bone:
I'm sure you'll agree, it looks somewhat like CE-399.
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Hi Tim, I saw your earlier post with these pics and the link to the work of Martin Fackler but it didn't have those pics there.
Are the two things connected?
DISCUSSION AND CONCLUSIONS
Our purpose was to prove the fallacy in the claim of the "conspiracy theorists" that the human radius near its end could not be perforated by a FMJ bullet without causing that bullet to be deformed. Our results show clearly the fallacy in this claim."
So, the stated purpose of the experiment was to disprove the claims of certain CTers.
Hmmmm...
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on August 02, 2025, 12:41:40 AM ---Hi Tim, I saw your earlier post with these pics and the link to the work of Martin Fackler but it didn't have those pics there.
Are the two things connected?
DISCUSSION AND CONCLUSIONS
Our purpose was to prove the fallacy in the claim of the "conspiracy theorists" that the human radius near its end could not be perforated by a FMJ bullet without causing that bullet to be deformed. Our results show clearly the fallacy in this claim."
So, the stated purpose of the experiment was to disprove the claims of certain CTers.
Hmmmm...
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That is one of the two bullets that they recovered. Fackler already knew that the human radius near its end could be perforated by a FMJ bullet without causing that bullet to be deformed. The test was just to demonstrate that it could.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Tim Nickerson on August 02, 2025, 01:07:01 AM ---That is one of the two bullets that they recovered. Fackler already knew that the human radius near its end could be perforated by a FMJ bullet without causing that bullet to be deformed. The test was just to demonstrate that it could.
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The pictures you've posted of the truly pristine bullet does not appear anywhere in the journal which you provided a link for - https://thinlineweapons.com/IWBA/1995-Vol2No2.pdf
I was just wondering where the pics are from and how they relate to the experiment Fackler carried out as "a useful confirmation of the work done by Dr John Lattimer".
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on August 03, 2025, 10:46:04 AM ---The pictures you've posted of the truly pristine bullet does not appear anywhere in the journal which you provided a link for - https://thinlineweapons.com/IWBA/1995-Vol2No2.pdf
I was just wondering where the pics are from and how they relate to the experiment Fackler carried out as "a useful confirmation of the work done by Dr John Lattimer".
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I got the composite photo from McAdams' site some years ago. I had thought that Gus Russo had published it in his "Live by the Sword" but that doesn't seem to be the case.
From Fackler's testimony during the 1992 mock trial:
"The bullet actually made a slightly greater hole than the one in Governor Connally's wrist. That's because the experiment bullet was actually going a little faster than the 900 feet [per second] that CE399 was travelling. The test bullet was non-deformed. It was not flattened in the least and had nowhere near the damage of CE399."
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