The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theory They Need

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Online Jarrett Smith

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Re: The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theory They Need
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2025, 04:28:48 AM »
Storing,

Obviously, you HAVEN'T been paying ATTENTION for the past YEAR or so.

During that period of time I've pointed out more than once that in a 2020 scientific article by Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce, they showed that the conscious reactions, as "captured" by the Zapruder film, of seven witnesses (including JFK, Jackie, Governor and Mrs. Connally, and Roy Kellerman in the limo, and two others near it) to the sounds of Oswald's first, missing-everything shot, indicate that said shot was fired at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133 after a 17-second pause (which pause he made to save precious film).

D'oh!

But 3 more shots were fired after that, so that means conspiracy. Z-160 Z-224 Z-313

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Re: The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theory They Need
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2025, 04:48:31 AM »
But 3 more shots were fired after that, so that means conspiracy. Z-160 Z-224 Z-313

LOL!

Good one!

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Re: The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theory They Need
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2025, 02:47:11 PM »
Griffith,

Are you pro-Trump? If so, it would go a long way in explaining what a rabid conspiracy theorist you are.

This is more of your silliness. Quite a few Trump voters believe in the lone-gunman theory, while many others do not.

"Rabid conspiracy theorist"? This is rich coming from a guy who endlessly peddles claims of endless Russian conspiracies. I won't even try to count how many times just in the last three months you have accused people of being Russian/Putin agents merely beause they disagree with you.

Am I "pro-Trump"? Well, it's complicated. He was my last pick in the GOP primary in 2016 and in 2020. I voted for him only because I found the alternative even worse. I viewed him as the lesser of two evils. I agree with about 70% of his policies. I lament his personal conduct--his abrasiveness, his inclination to exaggerate, his failure to carefully study issues, and other unpresidential conduct.

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Re: The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theory They Need
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2025, 03:42:28 PM »
Who could have PLAUSIBLY accused him of "incompetence" regarding what he THOUGHT he'd seen when he watched the TRAUMATIC clip at normal speed just one time?

Did anyone OTHER than Rather report so early what THEY thought they'd seen in the clip?

D'oh

   Do you understand what a "Reporter" at a National Network is expected to do? What your claiming Rather did is more inline with the weekly column of Floyd The Barber in the Mayberry Gazette.

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Re: The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theory They Need
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2025, 06:24:30 PM »
Do you understand what a "Reporter" at a National Network is expected to do?

He was allowed to watch the confusing and traumatic clip only one time.

He didn't take notes.

He then ran several blocks to the news station.

He had to say something to the nation.

At least he was correct in saying that the limo turned onto Elm Street from Houston Street, that both JFK and Connally were hit, that JFK's body may have brushed Jackie's legs!!!, that Jackie climbed onto the trunk of the limo, that the Secret Service man riding on the back bumper pushed her back, and that a Secret Service man in the front seat was holding a telephone as the limo sped away.

However, he made up the bit about Connally's being hit when he was turned towards the TSBD and waving to Oswald, or some-such thing.
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Re: The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theory They Need
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2025, 07:10:08 PM »

  Where on the Zapruder Film is Kellerman or Greer holding a telephone? EVIDENCE of this would then open the discussion to including the recording of this possible conversation along with the recording of possible additional shots being fired. Zapruder STOPPED filming as the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass. If a SS Agent is holding a telephone, a possible conversation on that telephone would therefore have happened BEFORE the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass. Where on the Current Zapruder Film do You see a SS Agent holding a telephone?

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Re: The MAGA Crowd Gets the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theory They Need
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2025, 07:30:11 PM »
Where on the Zapruder Film is Kellerman or Greer holding a telephone? EVIDENCE of this would then open the discussion to including the recording of this possible conversation along with the recording of possible additional shots being fired. Zapruder STOPPED filming as the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass. If a SS Agent is holding a telephone, a possible conversation on that telephone would therefore have happened BEFORE the JFK Limo went under the Triple Underpass. Where on the Current Zapruder Film do You see a SS Agent holding a telephone?

Storing,

You would have to ask Dan Rather, but I believe Kellerman testified or wrote in a report that he radioed the DPD lead car or some-such thing right away.

Are you going to hold it against Rather for describing the device as a "telephone" rather than a "radio microphone"?