The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish

[Tim Nickerson]

LOL, more denialism. The X-ray absolutely demonstrates that CE-399 smashed through T1 exactly as my overhead graphic implies. You know you've lost the argument when you resort to semantics. Compared to the severely deformed fragments CE-567 and CE-569, CE-399 was indeed pristine, which was clearly planted on the wrong stretcher without a trace of blood, flesh, or bone on it. You are not a serious proponent of the SBT if you do not acknowledge the dubious provenance of CE-399. Will you never learn?

What X-Ray are you referring to, and why did the Clark panel and the HSCA FPP fail to note that it shows that the bullet smashed though T1?

Tomlinson stated that he found the bullet on the stretcher that he had pulled off of the elevator. That was the stretcher that Connally had been on. The bullet likely had blood on it from being in Connally's thigh. By the time it reached FBI Agent Robert Frazier, it had been in the pockets of two individuals. Frazier testified that "there may have been slight traces which could have been removed just ,in ordinary handling, but it wasn't necessary to actually clean blood or tissue off of the bullet".

Like Ford, you at least recognize that T1 is too low for the SBT to be plausible. If you think that the autopsy photo and the X-ray photo show an entry wound at C7, then your slip is showing. Besides, even if you move the entry wound up to C7, you need it to go up to C6 for it to exit at C7. You suck at geometry.

* Note that providing the X-ray photo is authentic, then it represents the holy grail of the CE-399 trajectory

I don't recognize T1 as being too low for the SBT to work. I'm merely going by what the evidence says. The autopsy report has the bullet traversing downward through the supra-scapular and supra-clavicular portions of the base of the right side of the neck. Humes testified that the wound was in the lower neck.

Actually, the bullet hole exited slightly to the left of the midline, which means it smashed through more of the T1 vertebra, not less. Have a look at the bullet hole through JFK's shirt collar.

Dr. PERRY - I was in the Administrator's office here when he called.
Mr. SPECTER - And what did he ask you, if anything?
Dr. PERRY - He inquired about, initially, about the reasons for my doing a tracheotomy, and I replied, as I have to you, during this procedure, that there was a wound in the lower anterior third of the neck, which was exuding blood and was indicative of a possible tracheal injury underlying, and I did the tracheotomy through a transverse incision made through that wound, and I described to him' the right lateral injury to the trachea and the completion of the operation.

Boswell backtracked as instructed by Ford. Ford's only statement described the placement of JFK's back wound as entering the back of his neck and exiting through the lower front portion of his neck. This implies that Ford placed the back wound above C7 at C6.

Did you notice where Boswell placed the "X" above his original estimate, which was still below C6, where Ford placed it? Note that Boswell placed the X BELOW the collar. Note where the bullet exited relative to the collar button at C7. Clearly, the entrance wound was placed BELOW the exit wound, which is impossible if fired at a 17-degree declination from the SN.

Where do you get that Boswell backtracked as instructed by Ford?

Ford never placed the wound at C6. He never moved it anywhere. All that he did was recommend that wording in the draft report be altered to reflect what is in the autopsy report and what Humes testified to.

Correct, which brought the back wound up from T4/T5 as shown on CE-59 up to T1 as shown on the X-ray autopsy photo.

What X-Ray autopsy photo?

However, JFK's collar did not bunch, which placed the exit wound at C7/C6. This implies an upward trajectory from the back to front, which is impossible.

I can't make sense of what you're trying to say with that. It doesn't make sense.

LOL, you are quoting a co-conspirator who performed post-mortem surgery on JFK in secret to cover up a bullet wound, which was an entrance wound, and then burned all his notes.

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/postsurgery.jpg

Why would you rely on testimony from co-conspirators when the WC provided autopsy photos clearly showing the position of the bullet wounds on JFK? Is it because the assassination was sloppy and amateurish with no attention to detail? Or was it because the WC did not anticipate the level of scrutiny the evidence would receive?

Will you never learn anything? I guess so.

Oh boy. You are in deep. Come up for air.

Humes copied his bloodied notes word for word before he burned them.

[Jack Trojan]

I have no intention of going down your rabbit hole of obfuscation. As I mentioned initially, you lack critical thinking skills and struggle with geometry. The bottom line is that the magic bullet entry wound was lower than the exit wound, which negates a shot from the SN, and the WC tried to cover it up. This implies a second shooter and a conspiracy. If this was a conspiracy, then Oswald was a patsy and likely didn't even take a shot.

You are incapable of learning anything because you are too deeply invested. At this point, you would have to concede that you have been wasting decades of your life defending the WC and the LN conspiracy. The pathetic part of this is that defending the conspirators is just your hobby, and you likely never got paid for it. Sucker!

[Tom Graves]

I have no intention of going down your rabbit hole of obfuscation. As I mentioned initially, you lack critical thinking skills and struggle with geometry. The bottom line is that the magic bullet entry wound was lower than the exit wound, which negates a shot from the SN, and the WC tried to cover it up. This implies a second shooter and a conspiracy. If this was a conspiracy, then Oswald was a patsy and likely didn't even take a shot.

You are incapable of learning anything because you are too deeply invested. At this point, you would have to concede that you have been wasting decades of your life defending the WC and the LN conspiracy. The pathetic part of this is that defending the conspirators is just your hobby, and you likely never got paid for it. Sucker!

Trojan,

How many bad guys do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the getting-away, and the all-important (and ongoing!!!) cover up?

Just a few, or oodles and gobs?

[Tim Nickerson]

I have no intention of going down your rabbit hole of obfuscation. As I mentioned initially, you lack critical thinking skills and struggle with geometry. The bottom line is that the magic bullet entry wound was lower than the exit wound, which negates a shot from the SN, and the WC tried to cover it up. This implies a second shooter and a conspiracy. If this was a conspiracy, then Oswald was a patsy and likely didn't even take a shot.

You are incapable of learning anything because you are too deeply invested. At this point, you would have to concede that you have been wasting decades of your life defending the WC and the LN conspiracy. The pathetic part of this is that defending the conspirators is just your hobby, and you likely never got paid for it. Sucker!

Using the posterior autopsy view as a reference, place a mark on the lateral view at the level that you believe the entry wound on Kennedy was.

[Mitch Todd]

There's the denialism, right on cue.

LOL. Your only response is that CE-399 struck 1 less bone, which kept it pristine. However, the evidence according to the WC says otherwise.

Here is a forensic analysis of the trajectory of CE-399 based on simple geometry and the WC report:

If CE-399 was a shot from the 6th floor of the TSBD at a 17-degree declination, and JFK's body was turned 17 degrees clockwise, with the missile striking JFK somewhere between frames 210 and 225 of the Z-film, marking his position between 138.9 and 153.8 feet from the base of the TSBD, then based on the autopsy photo, which the WC claims is authentic, CE-399 entered JFK's back ~2 inches right of the center of his spinal cord. The exit wound was positioned almost dead center out through his throat. This trajectory clearly passes through the spinal column:

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/MRI_MB_T1_8b.png

But what vertebra? The original Boswell forensic diagram initially placed the back wound vertically at T2 or T3, which Ford subsequently relocated to C6.

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/boswell-original.png

Note where the bullet hole entrance was placed on JFK's jacket.

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/JFK_clothing.jpg

I question Ford's placement and will adhere to Boswell's estimate that CE-399 should be placed at T1 according to the autopsy X-ray provided by the WC:

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/x-ray_mb.gif

Conclusion:

If you believe the evidence supplied by the WC to be accurate, then the Single Bullet Theory is compromised, which negates a valid trajectory from the 6th floor of the TSBD that entered JFK's back at the T1 vertebra and exited at C7/C6. This is based on evidence provided by the WC, which Ford definitively altered to cover up the conspiracy that Oswald was a lone nut assassin. Fact is, Oswald never even took a shot because he was in the lunch room at the time. Clearly he was just the patsy.

QED

JT: If CE-399 was a shot from the 6th floor of the TSBD at a 17-degree declination, and JFK's body was turned 17 degrees clockwise, with the missile striking JFK somewhere between frames 210 and 225 of the Z-film, marking his position between 138.9 and 153.8 feet from the base of the TSBD, then based on the autopsy photo, which the WC claims is authentic, CE-399 entered JFK's back ~2 inches right of the center of his spinal cord. The exit wound was positioned almost dead center out through his throat. This trajectory clearly passes through the spinal column:

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/MRI_MB_T1_8b.png

This is the axial section that you pasted a drawing of a vertebra onto it. Also, it's too low. The autopsists noted that the hemorrhage to pleural cavity was at the apex. However, the two dark spaces either side of the ersatz vertebra on your png show that this section was taken well below the apex.  The location of the original throat wound can easily be seen in the autopsy photos to be roughly 1cm to the right of the midline. The exact location of that wound relative to the spine would also change somewhat depending on which direction JFK's head was turned and how much. We also don't know exactly how far from the centerline the back wound was, as the 5cm figure is an approximation. Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, the play was just fine.

JT: But what vertebra? The original Boswell forensic diagram initially placed the back wound vertically at T2 or T3, which Ford subsequently relocated to C6.

http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/boswell-original.png

This drawing is schematic in nature and was not intended to show precisely where the wound was. If you don't believe me, as Boswell. He has said so in the past.

Had a bullet hit JFK in the back at t3, it would have hit the scapula, a rib, and/or violated the pleura. None of these things occurred.

and:

JT: http://www.kohlbstudio.com/Images/x-ray_mb.gif

This shows an undisplaced fracture of the right transverse process. Had the vertebra been hit by a bullet, the fracture wouldn't have been undisplaced. It would be very displaced, in little pieces. Look at the x-rays of the Edgewood cadaver wrist test shots to see what a rifle bullet would do to a bone at 2000ft/sec. There would have also been a great deal of secondary damage as well, but this is not seen in JFK's case.