The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish

[Royell Storing]

Storing,

Here's my hot-off-the-press transcription of Rather's 3-minute-and-27-second broadcast.

It appears as though he mistakenly believed that the limo was only about 35 yards from the base of the TSBD when CE-399 wounded both JFK and JBC (at approximately Z-222) when in fact it was about twice as far away from it.

Ironically, the limo was about 35 yards from the base of the TSBD and JFK was waving when Oswald's first shot was missing him (and everything else) at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., about half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second pause) at Z-133.

"The films we saw were taken by an amateur photographer who had a particularly good vantage point, just past the building from which the fatal shot was fired. The films show President Kennedy's open black limousine making a left turn off Houston Street onto Elm Street on the fringe of downtown Dallas, the left turn made just below the window at which the assassin was waiting. About 35 yards past the very base of the building, just below the window, President Kennedy could be seen to put his right hand up to the side of his head to either brush back his hair or perhaps rub his eyebrow. President Kennedy was sitting on the same side of the car as the building from which the shot came. Mrs. Kennedy was by his side. In the jump seat in front of him, Mrs. Connally and Governor Connally -- Governor Connally on the same side of the car as the President -- and in the front seat, two Secret Service men. Just as the President put that right hand up to the side of his head, he … you could see him lurch forward, the first shot had hit him. Mrs. Kennedy was looking in another direction and apparently didn't see or sense that first shot or didn't hear it. But Governor Connally, in the seat in front, appeared to have heard it, or at least sense that something was wrong. The governor's coat was open. He reached back in this fashion, exposing his white shirt front to the assassin’s window, he reached back as if to offer aid or ask the President something. At that moment, a shot clearly hit the Governor in the front and he fell back in the seat. Mrs. Connally immediately threw herself over him in a protective position. In the next instant, with this time Mrs. Kennedy apparently looking on, a second shot -- the third total shot -- hit the President’s head. He … his head could be seen to move violently forward . . . and Mrs. Kennedy stood up immediately. The President leaned over her way, it appeared that he might have brushed her legs. Mrs. Kennedy then literally went on the top of the trunk of the Lincoln car and put practically her whole body on the trunk -- it appeared she might  have been on her all fours, there -- reaching out for the Secret Service man, the lone Secret Service man who was riding on the bumper of the car, the back bumper on Mrs. Kennedy's side. The Secret Service man leaned forward and put his hands on Mrs. Kennedy's shoulder to push her back into the car – she was in some danger, it appeared, of rolling off or falling off. And we described this before -- there was some question about what we meant by Mrs. Kennedy’s being on the trunk of the car. Only she knows, but it appeared that she was trying desperately to get the Secret Service man's attention or perhaps to help pull him into the car. The car never stopped; it never paused. In the front seat, a secret serviceman was on the telephone. The car picked up speed and disappeared beneath an underpass."

 
 Rather described separate shots hitting JFK and Gov Connally. He said Connally was HIT in the CHEST when he was turned around to see JFK. JFK was already clutching his throat at that point in time. 2 Separate Shots being responsible for the wounds of both at that time. That is what Rather described. 70 yards down Elm St is a long way from the TSBD. You need to rethink that about 70 yard estimate of yours. In my opinion, if nothing was in the way, Joe 6 Pack would have no trouble throwing a baseball from the front of the TSBD to the Zapruder Perch. Try estimating distance in that manner. Find a Point of Reference that you can relate to.

[Tom Graves]

 
 Rather described separate shots hitting JFK and Gov Connally. He said Connally was HIT in the CHEST when he was turned around to see JFK. JFK was already clutching his throat at that point in time. 2 Separate Shots being responsible for the wounds of both at that time. That is what Rather described. 70 yards down Elm St is a long way from the TSBD. You need to rethink that about 70 yard estimate of yours. In my opinion, if nothing was in the way, Joe 6 Pack would have no trouble throwing a baseball from the front of the TSBD to the Zapruder Perch. Try estimating distance in that manner. Find a Point of Reference that you can relate to.

Do you agree with Rather that JFK was struck by a bullet when he was about 35 yards from the base of the TSBD and his right hand was brushing his hair back or scratching his eyebrow?

[Royell Storing]

To be honest, Royell, you should really know that there were no "other films" shot from the north side of Elm Street. The only film that captured the moment of the assassination shot from the north side was the Zapruder film. It's quite shocking that you are not aware of such a basic fact.
The point I was making was that there were "other films" that captured the moment of the assassination. I should be surprised that you are not aware of the Nix film or the Muchmore film or the Bronson film. But I'm not surprised. Your ignorance regarding the assassination of JFK is quite profound as you've demonstrated time and time and time again.

 
Royell has spoken!!
The man regarded by some as the world's leading expert on Kodachrome II "is Not worth mentioning"!
The man who was one of the leading members of the team that invented Kodachrome II "is Not worth mentioning"!
You are so ignorant about the work of Roland Zavada it's funny.
You don't have the first clue.
Do some research for a change. Read the Zavada Report. Do some work.

But before you do that, please point everyone to the Dan Rather interview where he states that the film he saw was different from the Z-film we see today.
Where does Dan Rather explain the difference between his initial report of the Zapruder film and the Zapruder film we see today?
Now, I have to warn you...this is a trick question that you will not be able to answer without making yourself look foolish.
But go for it anyway.

  You need to find a sense of humor. With respect to Zavada, he's a "Homer". A "Ringer". He + KODAK.

[Tom Graves]

[...]

Storing,

Do you agree with Rather that JFK was struck by a bullet when he was about 35 yards from the base of the TSBD and his right hand was brushing his hair back or scratching his eyebrow?

[Dan O'meara]

  You need to find a sense of humor. With respect to Zavada, he's a "Homer". A "Ringer". He + KODAK.

Now you're just lying, Royell.
The last resort of the ignorant.
You know nothing about him or his work so you just start lying. It's shameful, really.

Oh, you've forgotten to point us to the Dan Rather interview where he describes the film he saw as being different from the Z-film we see today. Where does Rather state this? And no lying, please.

[Royell Storing]

Now you're just lying, Royell.
The last resort of the ignorant.
You know nothing about him or his work so you just start lying. It's shameful, really.

Oh, you've forgotten to point us to the Dan Rather interview where he describes the film he saw as being different from the Z-film we see today. Where does Rather state this? And no lying, please.

    You do know that "Viva Zavada" worked for KODAK?  Retired while working for KODAK?  And please refrain from the "Lying" and "Ignorant" slanders. That does nothing to further this discussion.

[Zeon Mason]

A professional would have used a suppressed rifle and shot JFK when he was a totally exposed stationary target, like standing up on a podium making a speech.

So a professional shooter choosing to shoot at a moving target from high up window of a building ( making it more difficult due to accelerating vehicle and ever changing vertical plane angle ) would seem to be a sloppy method chosen by the shooter.

That MC rifle found on the 6th floor TSBD at 1:20pm is the biggest problem for a CT because if the rifle was not actually fired, then it was either pre planted by conspirator shooter or it was post planted by conspirator member of Fritz  team or by FBI.

If the conspirator shooter intent was to set up Oswald, then using the MC rifle which had paper  trail to Oswald, would be the more convincing option than the shooter just pre planting  the MC rifle and the shooter using some other rifle , risking leaving different type shells behind and different type bullets that might be recovered from JFK and JC.

The desire of the conspirator shooter to set up Oswald, therefore, is the reason  why an otherwise professional shooter would choose a sloppier method of A: using a poor quality MC rifle with misaligned scope( or at least preplanting it) and B: choosing to shoot from the TSBD 6th floor 72 ft up and having to adjust lead for changing vertical angle and an accelerating limo moving away at ground level, as well as having to contend with traffic light and  tree branches in the way.

[John Mytton]

A professional would have used a suppressed rifle and shot JFK when he was a totally exposed stationary target, like standing up on a podium making a speech.

Exactly Zeon, it's like the guy who took a shot at Trump, the sniper chose a time when Trump was standing relatively still on a podium giving a speech.







The main reason Oswald took the chance to assassinate Kennedy while Kennedy was in a moving vehicle was because it was his only opportunity, sure Oswald could have taken a risk at Love Field but where would Oswald have positioned himself? And as for indoor at the most probably unfamiliar Trade Mart that was also filled with uncertainty. And it's common knowledge at this point that supposed unbiased experienced sniper's have collectively said that shooting a moving target would be very difficult. And knowing the difficulty, those oh so wise conspirators set up a lone Patsy with additional snipers firing from multiple directions, even in front! You can't make this up. LOL!



JohnM