The Assassination was Sloppy and Amateurish

[Tom Graves]

Point is, why is Specter asking questions about how easy the shots were when using the Carcano Scope, if Oswald did Not use the scope? Or, maybe at that point in time Specter believed that Oswald DID use the scope. The Oswald story has changed many, many, times. The most recent tinkering being the Max Holland unproven  . An elapsed firing time of roughly 11 seconds now? Almost DOUBLE the original 6 seconds elapsed firing time which stood for better than 50 yrs. If the JFK Limo was under fire for 11 continuous seconds and the SS Failed to return fire, we now have a serious problem with the SS.

Storing,

At some point, didn't many JFKA "experts" believe that the three shots were fired over 8.6 seconds, or some-such thing, in the echo chamber known a Dealey Plaza? If so, is it really such a "leap" to go from that to . . . gasp . . . Max Holland's 11.25 seconds or to Brian Roselle's and Kenneth Scearce's more conservative 10.2 seconds?

Regardless, Max Holland believes Oswald's first, missing-everything shot rang out (or "muffled-out" is probably more appropriate) at hypothetical "Z-107," i.e., 1.5 seconds before Zapruder resumed filming -- after a long pause -- at Z-133, and that not only the limo but the Secret Service follow-up car had therefore already turned onto Elm Street, making it almost impossible for the agents in said car to crane their necks sharply upwards to their right side and see the former Marine sharpshooter and self-described Marxist getting ready to fire his second shot at JFK with the bullet now labeled CE-399 (which all rational JFK assassination students know wounded both JFK and JBC at some point between Z-222 and Z-224 and ended up being found inside Parkland Hospital, not far from where Governor Connally had been rolled in on a gurney).

Based on their analysis of the conscious reactions of seven witnesses (including everyone but Greer in the limo) to the sounds of the first shot, Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce determined in 2020 that said missing-everything shot was fired at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., only half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming, thereby placing the limo and the follow-up car even farther down Elm Street and therefore requiring the Secret Service agents in that car to be true contortionists to be able to spot Oswald way up high and behind them.

D'oh

[Royell Storing]

   You got 4 SS Agents standing on the running boards of the Queen Mary. SA Lem Johns claimed he Jumped Out Of the LBJ SS Car and ran toward the JFK Limo when the Kill Shot landed. This stuff about SS Agents being forced to "crane" their necks is pure fiction. They can hit the ground facing any direction at any point in time. And the Max Holland shtick has absolutely No Evidence to support ANY of it. This goes for his claiming that Oswald's 1st shot from a standing position struck a signal light standard. There is Absolutely NO Evidence to support any of his looney tunes worthy tale. 

[Tom Graves]

You got 4 SS Agents standing on the running boards of the Queen Mary. SA Lem Johns claimed he Jumped Out Of the LBJ SS Car and ran toward the JFK Limo when the Kill Shot landed. This stuff about SS Agents being forced to "crane" their necks is pure fiction. They can hit the ground facing any direction at any point in time. And the Max Holland shtick has absolutely No Evidence to support ANY of it. This goes for his claiming that Oswald's 1st shot from a standing position struck a signal light standard. There is Absolutely NO Evidence to support any of his looney tunes worthy tale.

storing,

Max Holland is PROBABLY wrong about a first, MISSING-EVERYTHING SHOT at hypothetical "Z-107" (i.e., a-SECOND-and-a-HALF before Zapruder RESUMED filming after a long PAUSE at Z-133), but Brian Roselle and Kenneth Scearce are probably CORRECT when they say that, based on the CONSCIOUS reactions to the SOUNDS of the first, MISSING-EVERYTHING SHOT of JFK, Jackie, Governor Connally, Mrs. Connally, Roy Kellerman, George Hickey and Rosemary Willis, said MISSING-EVERYTHING shot was at hypothetical "Z-124," i.e., HALF-a-second before ZAPRUDER resumed filming at Z-133, at which point the limo and the follow-up car were WELL DOWN Elm Street. The Secret Service agents in the FOLLOW-UP car probably didn't turn their BODIES or crane their NECKS around to look at the upper windows of the TSBD at this point because the muzzle of Oswald's SHORT-RIFLE was INSIDE the building for that steeply-downward-ANGLED shot, and therefore the MUZZLE blast was somewhat MUFFLED in comparison to his two other, "FLATTER," shots which he fired when the muzzle of his short-rifle was OUTSIDE the building.

Although the Secret Service agents in the follow-up car DIDN'T notice Oswald or his SHORT-RIFLE in the Sniper's Nest window before, during, or after his first, MISSING-EVERYTHING, shot, several people in the motorcade cars that were still on Houston Street DID, not to mention people like Amos Euins who were standing near the TSBD at the time.

D'OH!

[Dr Alan Howard Davis]

   The SBT all by itself would get Oswald off. As they say at the ball yard, "It only takes 1". That  SBT stuff would convince at least 1 juror there was a conspiracy/frame job on 11/22/63. The SBT just does Not make sense to the common sense of Joe 6 Pack.

I accept your argument on that - it would be a lottery, but the chances of 12 jurors all having no insight or common sense is the less likely scenario

[Zeon Mason]

This shooting from a high angle at a moving target 72 ft below is not so easy a shot as it might seem, because there is an ever changing vertical plane angle and the  limo was moving away slightly laterally and accelerating then slowing  so  inconsistent movement as well.

I’m inclined to agree with the 2 military expert snipers who said this was not an easy shot and they were doubtful that the MC rifle could be fired as rapidly as 2/3 rds majority of witness heard, including Harold Norman.   Even Charles Brehm, a combat veteran said 3 shots fired about as rapidly  as a bolt action rifle could be fired which is within 6-7 secs.

The CBS shooter trials had one old guy who managed to fire 3 shots in 5.6 seconds buts it’s doubtful if he really hit the target 3 times because they didn’t film up close the target. Maybe some magnification of the video can show the hits, so I’ll leave that to John Mytton who’s good at finding out such details.

None the less, it is improbable that 3 shots were fired over 10 seconds. Most witness heard the shots fired a 1….2..3 sequence  more like in approx 6 secs and Norman’s boom click click sequence is completed in about only 4 secs.
Then there is also Lee Bowers rapping the hand on the desk that’s completed within about 4 secs.

Now it’s entirely possible that  ear  witnesses could be off maybe 1-2 secs and the time therefore a little longer like 6 secs, but to suggest  they all were hearing 3 shots spread over 10-11 secs is highly improbable,  especially when the clear majority 2/3rds heard the last 2 shots so close together.

This is why I’m suggesting that it WOULD require an expert sniper with a BETTER quality rifle than that old MC rifle with misaligned scope ( that had reticle drift as well) with a BETTER quality precision center mounted scope to get the kill shot  at Z313.

Imo, the rifle that Arnold Rowland saw in the gunmans hand at 12:15 at the SW  TSBD 6th floor window where  Rowland was able to see the scope , is indicative that the rifle had a CENTER mounted scope thus was not the MC rifle with a side mounted scope.

If this were a one shot kill  that a pro sniper could have easily accomplished then why has no professional shooter ever replicated such a feat in this Dealey plaza moving target scenario with just one shot scoring a head shot at the moving target?

[Bill Brown]

   The SBT all by itself would get Oswald off. As they say at the ball yard, "It only takes 1". That  SBT stuff would convince at least 1 juror there was a conspiracy/frame job on 11/22/63. The SBT just does Not make sense to the common sense of Joe 6 Pack.

No.

CE-567 and CE-569 alone tell you that the shot which struck the President in the head was fired from Oswald's rifle.  This is completely unrelated to the SBT.

To correct your statement, 567 & 569 themselves would fry Oswald.

[Royell Storing]

  The moment that Specter presents his SBT to a possible jury, Oswald walks. Now, if he wants to completely abandon his cockamamie, "head bone connected to the ankle bone" shtick, maybe he gets somewhere. But as presented for 61+ years, this a package deal.  3 shots = ALL the bodily damage. (Tague included). The piecemeal dodging of the SBT/Pristine Bullet is indicative of just how DOA the SBT is.