Toni Glover

[Lance Payette]

It contradicts Euin's story, as told by him in "JFK: The Lost Bullet" (which you can watch with your very own eyes), as to how he walked down the sidewalk and crouched behind the pedestal.

But that's Dale Myers' whole point in the article I linked, which is about "The Lost Bullet." https://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2012/01/ As with Glover, I'm really not interested in what Euins said in 2011 when he was filming a documentary with Max Holland and National Geographic. Or at least I'm much less interested than what he said in 1963-64. Apparently, Euins is still living in Mesquite, TX. Let's track him down and waterboard him 'til he fesses up. Maybe we can take Glover along and see if it jogs her memory.

[Lance Payette]

  Come on now. She's standing on that pedestal with her Mom. They both had to climb Down from that pedestal. And you do not think she would notice a Kid squatted down below her, scrunched up against this same pedestal? Just because she was 11 yrs old does Not make her a "ding bat", Archie.

From a 2012 exchange with Don Roberdeau, as reported by Pat Speer:

"Mom died in 1996. In fact it was her death that made me start thinking I needed to contact someone at the Museum. The thing she talked about most was the guy who wouldn't let us down. Geez it's hard for me to remember what she wore. I know I tried to get her up on the pedestal, but it was high. At one point when we were waiting, we both sat on the stone fence. But that was long before anything happened. I want to say that's mom next to me, but I can't be sure. Logically, it would have been odd for her to lose all dignity and climb up there. But it looks like her coat in Dorman. The woman could definitely be my mom. It looks like I hug her as the limo turns onto Elm. The top of the pedestal is slanted, very slightly from the edge to the center. That made it a little tricky not to fall off. I was probably trying to steady whoever is up there. That's the best I can do unless I find a family picture of her in that coat. I'll tell my sisters to go through some family albums."

Sound like a great witness, ladies and gentlemen of the jury?

At least where Pat Speer places Euins, he was not scrunched up beneath the Glover Pedestal of Freedom. You're confusing him with Dentist Don, who was scrunched up inside Glover's mother's coat.

[Royell Storing]

  A while back, I read an interview that the HSCA did with Euins. At that time he was asked about his claiming to have had a camera with him that day. He said he didn't know what happened to the camera amidst all the confusion on 11/22/63. So this "Whopper" stuff just might have legs.

[Tom Graves]

But that's Dale Myers' whole point in the article I linked, which is about "The Lost Bullet." https://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2012/01/ As with Glover, I'm really not interested in what Euins said in 2011 when he was filming a documentary with Max Holland and National Geographic. Or at least I'm much less interested than what he said in 1963-64. Apparently, Euins is still living in Mesquite, TX. Let's track him down and waterboard him 'til he fesses up. Maybe we can take Glover along and see if it jogs her memory.

If Toni Glover and her mother were standing on the pedestal during the shooting (I believe that they were), and if, during the shooting, Amos Euins crouched behind said pedestal for "cover," would he have been able to see the "pipe" sticking out of the Sniper's Nest window by either looking through the gaps between their legs or by craning his neck around them?

[Lance Payette]

Forget all the above. I've done a 180. What Toni Glover needs is an agent. That would be me. We're flushing "Girl in Blue." That title is going nowhere fast. It's now "Crime Kid: How My 11-Year-Old Brain Solved the Murder of JFK." Nice, yes? A sequel, "Amos Lee Euins: Punk Liar," is in the works (that's just a tentative title - we'll bounce it off a couple of focus groups). Forget the freebie interviews, Sixth Floor Museum and others. All requests to interview Ms. Glover now go through me, and they won't be free. We're working with the City of Dallas and Oliver Stone to have the Glover Pedestal of Freedom designated a National Historical Site with a highly realistic AI robot Toni on top. That's all the Glover news for now, but stay tuned. Moving on to finalizing the agency contract with Dentist Don and Edna, but they're tough customers. Nobody - NOBODY - whacks me down to a 3% fee, Dentist Don, as you're about to learn.

[Royell Storing]

Forget all the above. I've done a 180. What Toni Glover needs is an agent. That would be me. We're flushing "Girl in Blue." That title is going nowhere fast. It's now "Crime Kid: How My 11-Year-Old Brain Solved the Murder of JFK." Nice, yes? A sequel, "Amos Lee Euins: Punk Liar," is in the works (that's just a tentative title - we'll bounce it off a couple of focus groups). Forget the freebie interviews, Sixth Floor Museum and others. All requests to interview Ms. Glover now go through me, and they won't be free. We're working with the City of Dallas and Oliver Stone to have the Glover Pedestal of Freedom designated a National Historical Site with a highly realistic AI robot Toni on top. That's all the Glover news for now, but stay tuned. Moving on to finalizing the agency contract with Dentist Don and Edna, but they're tough customers. Nobody - NOBODY - whacks me down to a 3% fee, Dentist Don, as you're about to learn.

   You are doing this Forum a disservice. Here we have an actual 11/22/63 eyewitness that is actively participating in a discussion on this Forum, and what do you do? You attack her. This is why actively instrumental figures in the JFK Assassination such as Gary Mack bailed out around here. Discussion is a very good thing. Discussion involving individual(s) that were actually eyewitnesses to the assassination is invaluable. Put away the meat cleaver and if necessary employ a gag. You are not cute, and not helping solve this case. 

[Charles Collins]

   You are doing this Forum a disservice. Here we have an actual 11/22/63 eyewitness that is actively participating in a discussion on this Forum, and what do you do? You attack her. This is why actively instrumental figures in the JFK Assassination such as Gary Mack bailed out around here. Discussion is a very good thing. Discussion involving individual(s) that were actually eyewitnesses to the assassination is invaluable. Put away the meat cleaver and if necessary employ a gag. You are not cute, and not helping solve this case.

I agree. Having Toni Glover here is a real treat. I try to encourage her participation. Why Lance is behaving like he is towards her is a mystery to me.   

[Toni Glover]

Okay. It does not hurt my feelings when someone doesn't believe what I remember. Could I be wrong about Euins and his position regarding the pedestal? Absolutely. Could he have made every move he claims to? Absolutely.
Here is why I don't think he was there. Immediately after the shots, I turned to see how Mom and I could get down. I looked down and there was a man standing next to the pedestal who wouldn't move to let us down. So, I looked around the base of the pedestal to figure out how to get down. So, I actually stopped and looked down at the people around the pedestal and do not remember seeing a black man or kid around the base.We ended up having to use the stone "fence" attached to the pedestal to get down. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. But that's what I remember. I specifically looked around the base, and I do not remember seeing Euins. He could have run over the second I looked away.

As for the time between the assassination and the time I came forward. We did not come forward immediately because we didn't think we knew or saw anything that would help police. I did not talk to historians for 30 years, but Mom and I talked about it with family and friends many, many times. So it wasn't a memory that sat decaying for 30 years and then, "Hey everybody, look at me. I was there." Look at me, don't look time, believe me, don't believe me. That is your decision. I try to answer questions the best I can. That's all I can do. The rest is up to each of you.