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Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: Walk me through this, curtain rod fans
« Reply #77 on: May 13, 2025, 09:01:44 PM »
Undoubtedly others are more knowledgeable than I about the incident. I just recall that it almost turned into a fistfight. This is one description:

"Frazier is taken to Dallas Police headquarters and placed in a small interrogation room for more than six hours.  He is interrogated for hours at a time by two different teams of detectives who insist that he’s a killer, although there is nothing in his past to remotely suggest that he could be capable of committing such a crime.  Frazier doesn’t have so much as a traffic ticket on his record.  Frazier holds firm and denies the charges.  Finally, Captain Will Fritz, frustrated by Frazier’s resolve, comes into the interrogation room with a typewritten confession and demands that Frazier sign in it, without even reading it.  Frazier refuses, causing Fritz to lose his temper.  When Fritz tries to hit him, Frazier parries the blow and prepares to defend himself.  At that point, Fritz throws up his hands in frustration and leaves the room.  At around 3 a.m. the next morning, police let Frazier go."

If that's accurate, it would certainly have rattled me when I was 19 years old!

(There does seem to be remarkably little documentation or discussion of the incident, so hopefully someone will know more than I do.)



What is the source of that? 
Still, Frazier has absolutely nothing to worry about and no reason to lie, whatsoever.
If he is caught in any lie it will lead to trouble.  Besides, what is the lie?

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Walk me through this, curtain rod fans
« Reply #78 on: May 13, 2025, 09:07:34 PM »

What is the source of that? 
Still, Frazier has absolutely nothing to worry about and no reason to lie, whatsoever.
If he is caught in any lie it will lead to trouble.  Besides, what is the lie?

One possible lie is that he believed Oswald when Oswald told him the package contained curtain rods.

Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: Walk me through this, curtain rod fans
« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2025, 09:09:32 PM »
One possible lie is that he believed Oswald when Oswald told him the package contained curtain rods.

Why would Frazier lie? - he had nothing to be afraid of (and he wasn't).

Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Walk me through this, curtain rod fans
« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2025, 09:13:44 PM »

What is the source of that? 
Still, Frazier has absolutely nothing to worry about and no reason to lie, whatsoever.
If he is caught in any lie it will lead to trouble.  Besides, what is the lie?

See the video I posted. I believe he's told a pretty consistent story all along. He is clearly bitter. The source of what I posted was some CT site - something about "The Girl that Killed Kennedy."

The lie, if there was one, would be that the package was shorter than it actually was and that Oswald carried it differently than he actually did. As Charles notes, that would not be fodder for a perjury charge. I can see twin motivations - I'm not going to help these damn police one bit and I'm not going to say anything that provides a basis for more suspicion toward me.

With the .303 rifle, clip and ammunition at his sister's house, I'm not sure it's accurate to say he "has absolutely nothing to worry about and no reason to lie" a mere week after the assassination. I would agree that by the time of the WC, he could have played ball and said "Oh, I don't know, maybe it was longer than I thought and maybe it was protruding when I saw him carrying it." But he didn't, which is why I'm willing to chalk up his observations to an innocent eyewitness mistake.

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« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2025, 09:13:53 PM »
Why would Frazier lie? - he had nothing to be afraid of (and he wasn't).

Okay.

Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: Walk me through this, curtain rod fans
« Reply #82 on: May 13, 2025, 09:24:55 PM »
".... I'm willing to chalk up his observations to an innocent eyewitness mistake."

There's that preset again. The distance from the armpit past the ear is no innocent eyewitness mistake.
How do you mistakenly NOT see something?

Lee walked ahead of Frazier - at one point 50 feet - They have about 2 blocks to walk from the Aux parking lot.
Frazier didn't have to pay attention to the bag -- BUT just has to look at the figure of the man walking ahead. 
There was no bag along side his head.


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Offline Lance Payette

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« Reply #83 on: May 13, 2025, 09:27:10 PM »
This is quite mind-blowing. I admit I'm not entirely sober at the moment, but I can find NOTHING except Frazier's description of this incident. Did Fritz, Stovall, Rose or anyone else discuss this incident at all??? Is there any reasonably contemporaneous documentation of it? Frazier seems entirely too unsophisticated and folksy to have invented it, but then any number of UFO hoaxers have seemed too unsophisticated and folksy to pull off the hoaxes they did. It isn't even touched upon in Frazier's WC testimony.