Why Would Tippit Leave Himself a Sitting Duck For An Armed Cold Blooded Killer ?

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Online Charles Collins

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Dale Myers specifically addresses this issue at the Tippit memorial site: https://www.jdtippit.com/faq.htm

In the FAQ "Why did Tippit stop Oswald?" he takes us through the witnesses who support that Oswald abruptly changed direction from west to east and that this caught Tippit's eye.

The site prohibits copying, but the FAQ is fairly long and detailed.

This makes more sense to me than any other explanation. As Myers suggests, the radioed description of the suspect was scarcely an exact match for Oswald; the likelihood that the assassin would be strolling on the sidewalk in a residential neighborhood of Oak Cliff seems very remote; Tippit had been assigned to provide coverage in Oak Cliff, not to hunt for the assassin; and the probability is that after Oswald caught his attention he was just doing his job in a half-assed, albeit fatal, way.

Was every DPD officer who spotted a thin young guy anywhere in the CT limits expected to immediately go into Possible Assassin Mode, pull his gun and call for back-up? THAT could have been exciting, eh?

I see that Watson also raised the "police car in front of Beckley issue," which I have nicely solved as a taxi on another thread, or maybe not.


I don’t think that there is any way we will ever know for certain what caused Tippit to pull over. But Dale Myers does make a good case for that theory. I have also imagined this: provided Dale is right about the direction of LHO walking west, it appears to me that the taxi cab parked on the corner would have been prominent in LHO’s vision as he approached it. A theory that includes LHO either raising his hand to hail the taxi or LHO beginning to run towards the taxi, or both, in an effort to try to make sure that the taxi didn’t leave before he got there, could have gotten Tippit’s attention. Tippit might have even thought LHO was raising his hand as a gesture for Tippit to pull over. But, again, I don’t beleive that we will never know these things for certain.

Offline John Mytton

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Your choice #3 does not take into account Tippits's signaling for Oswald to come forth from the rooming house just 15 minutes prior to his being gunned down ?
A first effort by Tippit for Oswald to respond at the rooming house a couple taps of the horn, more subtle than his creeping along beside him down the street talking to him, as Oswald who was no dummy, has now seen the rouse for what it is and is telling Tippit he will take care of himself, thanks but ,no thanks
You can literally see Tippit's efforts to convince Oswald that he is to be his guide through the ominous crisis that now enveloped him if he will just get in the car escalating level by level.
" Poor dumb cop" is right
Wherever alleyway or deserted spot  it was that Tippit was told to bring Oswald too they undoubtedly both with were going to be found dead in " Officer vs Fugitive" shootout .

And who is behind box number 5) With plan B to handle Tippet's failure of plan A , why non-other that Tippit's good friend, and pimp for Tippit's now pregnant stripper girlfriend, Mr. Jack Ruby.

"It is intriguing, to say the least, that Oswald's departure from the rooming house occurred only moments after the strange appearance and horn-blowing of the patrol car from the Dallas Police Department. Exhaustive investigations have virtually established that the only police car officially in the vicinity was that of Officer J. D. Tippit. Less than fifteen minutes after this incident. Officer Tippit was savagely murdered and left dead in the street about a mile from Oswald's rooming house."

Sorry to rain on your parade but the "Police Car" that Earlene allegedly saw had two uniformed Policemen contained within! Oops!

Mr. BALL. And you say that there were two uniformed policemen in the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, and it was in a black car. It wasn't an accident squad car at all.
Mr. BALL. Were there two uniformed policemen in the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Oh, yes.


And just think about the timing, this was before mobile phones and for the few minutes that Oswald was in his room which according to Earlene was just long enough to get his jacket and then he walked out pretty fast, then in this thin slice of time a Police Car "tit-titted" just outside and the Police Car didn't wait for Oswald, but just drove away, Why?
Anyway, how on Earth did Tippit or whoever was driving know that Oswald was in the building at that exact time? Oswald could have been on a bus, Oswald then walked to the cab station and got in a cab which had to negotiate traffic and traffic lights and then Oswald got out of a cab way past the Rooming House and then he walked back. There are so many random variables and each event takes time, therefore the probability that the "cops" knew that Oswald was in his room at that precise time is extremely slim.

Mr. BALL. Did a police car pass the house there and honked?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. When was that?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He came in the house.
Mr. BALL. When he came in the house ?
Mrs. ROBERTS. When he came in the house and went to his room, you know how the sidewalk runs?


Mr. BALL.. How long did he stay in the room ?
Mr. ROBERTS. Oh, maybe not over 3 or 4 minutes-just long enough, I guess, to go in there and get a jacket and put it on and he went out zipping it.
Mr. BALL. You recall he went out zipping it-was he running or walking?
Mrs. ROBERTS. He was walking fast-he was making tracks pretty fast.
Mr. BALL. And one of the officers sounded the horn ?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Just kind of a "tit-tit"--twice


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Offline Lance Payette

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Sorry to rain on your parade but the "Police Car" that Earlene allegedly saw had two uniformed Policemen contained within! Oops!

I'm tellin' ya, it was a taxi and its passenger! When you put together who Aunt Earlene physically was, her shifting tale, and the unlikelihood that any police car was actually in front of Beckley, Lance's Taxi LN Factoid is as solid as factoids get!

Offline Watson Phillips

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Sorry to rain on your parade but the "Police Car" that Earlene allegedly saw had two uniformed Policemen contained within! Oops!

And of course the Dallas police force had that day's patrol record of a two man team working Oswald's neighborhood?
You are a little slow on the uptake .
But you are making progress & getting warmer .
Appreciate your help .
Good Lookin out !

Offline John Mytton

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I'm tellin' ya, it was a taxi and its passenger! When you put together who Aunt Earlene physically was, her shifting tale, and the unlikelihood that any police car was actually in front of Beckley, Lance's Taxi LN Factoid is as solid as factoids get!

Well, Earlene does say it was a black car and not an "accident squad car" whatever that means? Also worth noting is that the black car was headed towards a 5 way intersection which presumably had traffic, so a little "tit-tit" to help the traffic keep moving makes sense?

Mr. BALL. And you say that there were two uniformed policemen in the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, and it was in a black car. It wasn't an accident squad car at all.


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Offline Watson Phillips

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I'm tellin' ya, it was a taxi and its passenger! When you put together who Aunt Earlene physically was, her shifting tale, and the unlikelihood that any police car was actually in front of Beckley, Lance's Taxi LN Factoid is as solid as factoids get!

Your "clever" theory does not smell any less concocted on this thread when compared to the actual WC testimony of Mrs. Roberts
Deliberately omitted by yourself either by hope to deceive or ignorance , one ?

Your "conspiracy Theory"  is more concocted than "Clever"
Survey says your slippery theory is a bust according to Mrs Roberts testimony , which you have completely misrepresented , either in deliberate dishonesty or ignorance , one .
Your purposedly left out omissions include the fact that Mrs. Roberts testified that she actually worked for & was on a friendly basis with a police officer and his wife , and it was not uncommon for him to stop by the rooming house to relay messages from his wife. back and forth
Not only was She was very familiar with make and model of the patrol cars used , she was very familiar with her friends particular number of his car, and at first glance thought it was his car ( 170) but soon saw that it was not his car.

the police car that I knew and had worked for so, I forgot about it. I seen
it at the time, but I don’t remember now what it was.
Mr. BALL. Did you report the number of the car to anyone?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I think I did-I’m not sure, because I-at that particular
time I remembered it.
Mr. BALL. You remembered the number of the car?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I think it was-106 it seems to me like it was 106, but I do
know what theirs was-it was 170 and it wasn’t their car.
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Mr. BALL. It was not 170?
Mrs. ROBERTS. The people I worked for n-as 170.
Mr. BALL. Did you report that number to anyone, did you report this incident
to anyone?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes, I told the FBI and the Secret Service both when they was
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Offline John Mytton

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And of course the Dallas police force had that day's patrol record of a two man team working Oswald's neighborhood?
You are a little slow on the uptake .
But you are making progress & getting warmer .
Appreciate your help .
Good Lookin out !

So, now you don't think it was Tippit blowing his horn?

Your choice #3 does not take into account Tippits's signaling for Oswald to come forth from the rooming house just 15 minutes prior to his being gunned down ?
A first effort by Tippit for Oswald to respond at the rooming house a couple taps of the horn, more subtle than his creeping along beside him down the street talking to him, as Oswald who was no dummy, has now seen the rouse for what it is and is telling Tippit he will take care of himself, thanks but ,no thanks
You can literally see Tippit's efforts to convince Oswald that he is to be his guide through the ominous crisis that now enveloped him if he will just get in the car escalating level by level.

Or maybe Tippit had a blow up companion?



Just admit that you are making this up as you go along and that's fine because no one has ever made a plausible alternative to the official version but you Watson, you could be the man that makes history!

JohnM