Cowlick, low EOP ... or perhaps front?

[Tim Nickerson]

Thanks Tim that's food for thought, I've previously come across this explanation of the skull fracture and I took a screen grab of the radiating fracture lines for reference and I can't explain why the skull fractured in this way, perhaps there isn't enough information in the 2D X-ray? In the video, Stu.rdivan* also gives his opinion that upon impact the bullet broke up and yawed but in the ballistic tests I have seen, I haven't seen such a radical yaw in that limited amount of space but perhaps the bullet upon fragmenting changed direction upon entering the skull? 
* For some reason whenever this Forum sees the letters tu.rd like in Satu.rday it changes these letters to 'Person'?!

Stur.ivan's opinion is based largely on what he observed at Edgewood Arsenal.

Though all the Biophysics Lab test shots were aimed so that the WC’s specified entry and exit locations would lie on a straight trajectory, none of the bullets penetrated the front of the skull at the “intended” exit location. One even punched out through the right orbit (eye socket) near the nose. Nor were the researchers surprised by the fact that all those fragmented bullets exited from an obviously curved path. All were quite familiar with the trajectories of bullets and bullet fragments through tissue simulant.

Stur.ivan, Larry M.. JFK Myths: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination (p. 199). Paragon House. Kindle Edition.

But at the end of the day I believe that the wound next to the ruler is the back of head entrance hole because upon close inspection and primarily, it's a hole which can be physically manipulated and secondly the dimensions match Humes original measurements.





On Speer's web site he postulates that the bullet wound is this darkened splodge on the BOH autopsy photo but the dimensions don't appear to match Humes measurements and as opposed to the parting of the hair at the point of impact to provide a better look, Speers darkened splodge is not being highlighted in any way.



I just had a quick look at the ED Forum page and DVP quite humorously points out that there is other darkened splodges! The fact that none of these splodges have been highlighted in any way just shows a lot of wishful thinking.



In this similar scalp bullet hole, the entrance was shaved as to highlight the impact point because indicating the bullet hole is the number one reason for taking the autopsy photo!

Notice the difference between the fracture lines in the Dox drawing and those highlighted by Cummings in the autopsy photo.  Seems a bit suspect, does it not?

Pat Speer's candidate for the entry wound is below the EOP. As is the one circled by DVP.

So in conclusion I don't know why Humes thinks the wound was so low but iirc he did flip flop on it's position before finally going back to his original belief? Also Jerry Organ and along with his posts appears to have disappeared from this Forum(A real shame), believes that the skull hole was felt from within and mistakenly gave this result?

JohnM

I doubt that Jerry was right. Humes did briefly change his mind about the location of the wound but he was pressured to do so. He did not finish his HSCA testimony before reverting back to original finding.

I would encourage you to read Pat Speer's chapters on the X-Rays and head wounds. I don't agree with everything that he says in them but they are well worth reading.

[John Mytton]

Stur.ivan's opinion is based largely on what he observed at Edgewood Arsenal.

Though all the Biophysics Lab test shots were aimed so that the WC’s specified entry and exit locations would lie on a straight trajectory, none of the bullets penetrated the front of the skull at the “intended” exit location. One even punched out through the right orbit (eye socket) near the nose. Nor were the researchers surprised by the fact that all those fragmented bullets exited from an obviously curved path. All were quite familiar with the trajectories of bullets and bullet fragments through tissue simulant.

Stur.ivan, Larry M.. JFK Myths: A Scientific Investigation of the Kennedy Assassination (p. 199). Paragon House. Kindle Edition.

Notice the difference between the fracture lines in the Dox drawing and those highlighted by Cummings in the autopsy photo.  Seems a bit suspect, does it not?

Pat Speer's candidate for the entry wound is below the EOP. As is the one circled by DVP.

I doubt that Jerry was right. Humes did briefly change his mind about the location of the wound but he was pressured to do so. He did not finish his HSCA testimony before reverting back to original finding.

I would encourage you to read Pat Speer's chapters on the X-Rays and head wounds. I don't agree with everything that he says in them but they are well worth reading.

One more thought is these top of head autopsy photos, if the bullet fragments came up from the bottom right then I'd expect the right side brain to be more eviscerated but I can see the left side almost intact and what appears to be an open horizontal tract which would be consistent with a bullet entering at the higher cowlick position.



This sketch of JFK's brain is very close to what we can see in the above autopsy photos.



JohnM

[David Von Pein]

At the autopsy they also took a specific pair of photos of this wound and it's clear as the scalp is pulled and tightened, the wound responds as one would expect by narrowing.

Thank you, John.

[Tom Graves]

There is no "large wound" visible in this autopsy photo below at all....so how could the ruler in the picture be "pointing out" any of the dimensions of the large wound (which, of course, was located on the right/front/top part of JFK's head, not in the rear of the head?

If the ruler was intended to measure the diameter of the so-called cowlick "wound," or its distance from something, why wasn't the end of the ruler placed immediately next to it both vertically and horizontally?

[Jim Hawthorn]

What we need is more autopsy (and Parkland) photos! Come on Donald, make it happen! 

[Lance Payette]

Again, but this time in the context of the LN narrative, we see an effort to "save" a theory that, to me, simply makes no sense. If a CT were arguing for the cowlick position, we'd all be saying:

1. Give me a plausible explanation for autopsy doctors, dealing with the actual body, being wrong by 4". That would be an utterly staggering error.

2. Give me a plausible explanation for photos with a ruler carefully (or perhaps not so carefully), identifying a red smudge that no one at the autopsy said was a bullet wound.

3. Convince me that a high-velocity bullet striking the top of a skull at a very considerable angle would leave a wound so inconsequential that we have to debate whether it's a hole at all. I find that unbelievable.

4. Explain why the HSCA was presented with an Ida Dox drawing that so clearly exaggerated the "bullet hole" appearance of the smudge (after she was provided with non-JFKA materials showing "how it should look").

5. Explain the later pressuring of the autopsy doctors as pretty thoroughly documented in Pat Speer's Chapter 13.

There simply had to be an agenda here. I can only assume that the EOP bullet position was deemed problematical. That would be my real concern: Is it problematical?

[Jim Hawthorn]

The embalmer Thomas Evan Robinson:

"large gaping hole in back of head."
"smaller wound in right emple"



LNers: "Nah, he was mistaken, just like the many doctors at Parkland!"

Nurse Bowron:

"I saw that there was a massive amount of blood on the back seat and in order to find the cause I lifted his head and my fingers went into a large wound in the back of his head; I turned his head and seeing the size of the wound realized that I could not stop the bleeding. I turned his head back and saw an entry wound in the front of the throat,..."

Nah!