The Warren Commission Sham

[Jim Hawthorn]

The CIA and the FBI didn't want anyone to know that Oswald had been in contact with a putative Department 13 (assassinations and sabotage) KGB officer, Valeriy Kostikov, at the Soviet Consulate in Mexico City. The CIA and the FBI believed Kostikov was Department 13 only because a Kremlin-loyal triple agent at the NYC field office, KGB Major Aleksei Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA), had told the FBI in 1962 that Kostikov's charge at the U.N., Igor Brykin, was Department 13.

Exactly, but those agencies were involved in covering information but weren't necessarily involved in an assassination plot.

[Tom Graves]

Exactly, but those agencies were involved in covering information but weren't necessarily involved in an assassination plot.

Not necessarily, but the KGB may have been.

IIRC, John M. Newman and Peter Dale Scott used to think (I think Scott still does) that evil, evil, evil James Angleton had somehow caused Kostikov's radioactive name to be mentioned by Soviet Embassy security officer Ivan Obyedkov to Oswald or an Oswald impersonator over a sure-to-be-taped-by-the-CIA phoneline on 10/1/63 so that the CIA and the FBI, in the interest of preventing Nuclear Armageddon, would be forced seven weeks later to cover up the CIA's hand in the assassination.

[Tom Graves]

Dear Danny Boy O'meara,

I asked:

Did CE-399 wound JFK and/or JBC?

You replied:

Not a chance. The admission of CE399 into evidence is one of the more disgraceful episodes in the Warren Commission sham.

My question:

Did the bad guys plant CE-399 (either in Parkland Hospital or in the limo)?

If so, did they deform it so strangely (i.e., with no damage to the nose, with 1/3 to 1/2 of one side flattened near the rear, with lead core extruding from its base, and with a longitudinal twist) by firing into some cotton wadding or into a bucket of water?

Did they squeeze it in a vise???

-- Tom

[Lance Payette]

YAWN.

No, sorry ...

MASSIVE YAWN.

Important to highlight the deceitfulness of the WC??? Gee, the CT community has never hit on that angle before ... 

Why are these folks even humored? Doesn't this start to look less like discussion and more than mental illness?

Do you have anything NEW to add, ever? OCD can be treated, you know.

[Tom Graves]

YAWN.

No, sorry ...

Important to highlight the deceitfulness of the WC??? Gee, the CT community has never hit on that angle before ... 

Why are these folks even humored? Doesn't this start to look less like discussion and more than mental illness?

Do you have anything NEW to add, ever? OCD can be treated, you know.

Dear Lance,

Maybe you should have some milk and cookies, put your jammies on, again, and go back to bed.

Either that or re-read my post.

O'meara's "take" on CE-399 is a real HOOT!

-- Tom

[Lance Payette]

Dear Lance,

Maybe you should have some milk and cookies, put your jammies on, again, and go back to bed.

Either that or re-read my post.

O'meara's "take" on CE-399 is a real HOOT!

-- Tom

It's 6 AM. I am still in my jammies, my good man, and I've just finished my coffee and peanut butter (right out of the jar, with a spoon!).

People who are B-O-R-I-N-G are never a hoot, and my definition of "hoot" is growing increasingly narrow as I participate here. Now that Team Sock Puppet has come out of the woodwork, perhaps the Hoot Factor will increase exponentially.

I was responding to O'Meara's post, and now it seems to have disappeared. What happened? Did I shame him into deleting it? (Oh, wait, I see what I did - I somehow responded to the original post in this thread. My bad. Well, the point is still valid.)

[Michael T. Griffith]

Another point worth mentioning is that Barry Krusch (M.A., B.S.) proves in Impossible: The Case Against Lee Harvey Oswald, Volume 3 that WC counsel David Belin realized that boxes were moved around in the sniper's nest between the time CE 482 was taken and the time CE 715 was taken, i.e., between 1 minute after the shooting and shortly after the arrival of Day and Studebaker to the sixth floor at 1:12. IOW, Belin reached the same conclusion as the HSCA photographic experts, i.e., that boxes were moved in the sniper's nest after the alleged lone gunman had left the sixth floor, but Belin did so on different evidence. Belin detected this by comparing CE 482 with CE 715, which should show the same configuration of boxes but clearly do not.

Belin questioned Deputy Sheriff Mooney closely about the conflict between CE 482 and CE 715. Mooney insisted he did not move a single box in the sniper's nest but stood guard around the nest until Day and Studebaker arrived. Belin may have suspected that Mooney moved the boxes but just didn't want to admit it. If Belin had considered the Powell and Murray photos, he would have realized the boxes were moved before Mooney got to the sixth floor.