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The Warren Commission Sham
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on April 01, 2025, 03:43:27 PM --- OK. And what was the condition of the alleged Carcano Bullet that rendered the Kill Shot? Yeah, thought so.
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Oops!
I'll add "Ballistics Ignoramus" to your list of failures!
Mr. SPECTER. I now hand you a case containing bullet fragments marked Commission Exhibit 857 and ask if you have ever seen those fragments before.
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And under what circumstances have you viewed those before, please?
Dr. OLIVIER. There were, the two larger fragments were recovered outside of the skull in the cotton waste we were using to catch the fragments without deforming them. There are some smaller fragments in here that were obtained from the gelatin within the cranial cavity after the experiment. We melted the gelatin out and recovered the smallest fragments from within the cranial cavity.
Mr. SPECTER. Now, I show you two fragments designated as Commission Exhibits 567 and 579 heretofore identified as having been found on the front seat of the President's car on November 22, 1963, and ask you if you have had an opportunity to examine those before.
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And have you had an opportunity to compare those to the two fragments identified as Commission Exhibit 857?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And what did that comparison show?
Dr. OLIVIER. They are quite similar.
JohnM
Steve M. Galbraith:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on April 01, 2025, 04:19:28 PM ---Oops!
I'll add "Ballistics Ignoramus" to your list of failures!
Mr. SPECTER. I now hand you a case containing bullet fragments marked Commission Exhibit 857 and ask if you have ever seen those fragments before.
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And under what circumstances have you viewed those before, please?
Dr. OLIVIER. There were, the two larger fragments were recovered outside of the skull in the cotton waste we were using to catch the fragments without deforming them. There are some smaller fragments in here that were obtained from the gelatin within the cranial cavity after the experiment. We melted the gelatin out and recovered the smallest fragments from within the cranial cavity.
Mr. SPECTER. Now, I show you two fragments designated as Commission Exhibits 567 and 579 heretofore identified as having been found on the front seat of the President's car on November 22, 1963, and ask you if you have had an opportunity to examine those before.
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And have you had an opportunity to compare those to the two fragments identified as Commission Exhibit 857?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.
Mr. SPECTER. And what did that comparison show?
Dr. OLIVIER. They are quite similar.
JohnM
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Mr. SPECTER. What bullets were used [for the tests]?
Dr. OLIVIER. It was the 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano Western ammunition lot 6,000.
This is like Groundhog Conspiracy Day. Sixty years of it. The same old stuff that is knocked down day-after-day.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Steve M. Galbraith on April 01, 2025, 04:46:26 PM ---Mr. SPECTER. What bullets were used [for the tests]?
Dr. OLIVIER. It was the 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano Western ammunition lot 6,000.
This is like Groundhog Conspiracy Day. Sixty years of it. The same old stuff that is knocked down day-after-day.
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Yeah, you've emerged to catch Royell out.
Way to go.
Where are you when the tricky questions are being asked?
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on April 01, 2025, 05:00:37 PM ---Yeah, you've emerged to catch Royell out.
Way to go.
Where are you when the tricky questions are being asked?
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I think the point Royell was trying to make is that in his opinion, it makes no sense that the head shot bullet fragmented whereas CE-399 didn't.
Which can be explained by the fact that, as the autopsy doctors indicated, the head shot bullet struck near JFK's thick External Occipital Protuberance whereas CE-399 just rode along JBC's fifth rib and sideswiped his radial bone.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on April 01, 2025, 10:43:27 AM ---Cyril Wecht reckoned the injuries to JBC's wrist weren't caused by CE-399.
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How many of the other forensic pathologists on the panel of nine agreed with him?
--- Quote --- All of the bullets fired in the experiment ended up with massively deformed noses. How did Guinn explain that?
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Was the muzzle velocity of any of those test bullets significantly reduced (to compensate for the fact that CE-399 had already passed through JFK's lower neck and JBC's chest), and were any of them already tumbling when they sideswiped the cadaver's radial bone?
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