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The Warren Commission Sham
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on April 03, 2025, 12:15:28 AM ---It is difficult to work out the firing sequence for the 2nd shooter if the 1st shot heard by anyone was at Z224 and how to reconcile that with Norman hearing all 3 shots right above him.
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That's nothing compared to trying to understand your English.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on April 03, 2025, 12:15:28 AM ---@Dan: Are you suggesting that it’s plausible that an MC 6.5 mm ball nosed bullet WAS the bullet that hit JC , only that it fragmented and was more deformed than CE 399?
If so, then what is the reason to substitute the CE399 MC bullet for an actual MC bullet that hit JC?
Imo the reason would be that the MC bullet and fragments recovered from JC could not be matched to the barrel grooves of the MC rifle found on the 6th floor TSBD.
And that it might be that Oswalds MC rifle was not even fired that day but was planted in the boxes sometime in the early am hours of Friday morning?
But that’s not likely what a solitary conspirator shooter intending to set up Oswald would do because it’s a lot easier to just use the MC rifle that has a mail order paper trail to Oswald’s P.O. Box. And the shells left behind and any bullets recovered be matched to the rifle.
And it seems equally unlikely that a solitary conspirator shooter would use a completely different type rifle firing conical shaped bullets while leaving behind the MC rifle, because the bullets recovered will not match the MC rifle.
So this idea that CE399 was substituted for any other type bullet that was recovered really is only plausible if there was a 2nd shooter who fired a bullet at Z224 and that bullet when found did not match the MC rifle found on the 6th floor.
It is difficult to work out the firing sequence for the 2nd shooter if the 1st shot heard by anyone was at Z224 and how to reconcile that with Norman hearing all 3 shots right above him.
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I don't understand why CE399 being substituted would imply a 2nd shooter but I do agree that it is weird that these bullets, which were designed specifically not to fragment (as I understand it) keep fragmenting. The bullet that hits JFK's head smashes into countless pieces leaving a metallic trail through his brain. In any re-enactment I've ever seen the bullet never fragments and, as I understand it, during the ballistic testing done as part of the Warren Commission 'investigation' not a single bullet fragmented yet during the assassination the two bullets that found the target fragmented.
Go figure.
Obviously, this anomaly never came to the attention of the Sham.
Jim Hawthorn:
--- Quote from: Dan O'meara on April 03, 2025, 09:09:39 AM ---I don't understand why CE399 being substituted would imply a 2nd shooter but I do agree that it is weird that these bullets, which were designed specifically not to fragment (as I understand it) keep fragmenting. The bullet that hits JFK's head smashes into countless pieces leaving a metallic trail through his brain. In any re-enactment I've ever seen the bullet never fragments and, as I understand it, during the ballistic testing done as part of the Warren Commission 'investigation' not a single bullet fragmented yet during the assassination the two bullets that found the target fragmented.
Go figure.
Obviously, this anomaly never came to the attention of the Sham.
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The conspirators would have had no idea about how much bullet debris was to be found in Kennedy, Connally or in the limo, so they would hardly introduce a slightly flattened bullet into the evidence trail, hoping that it would match what was found. That is just too far fetched. It really does look like CE399 was the "magic bullet". Not that this validates the lone nut theory though.
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on April 03, 2025, 12:19:34 AM ---LOL!
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That's it?
That's the sum total of your contribution to the discussion?
I answer every query you put forward in detail and this is all you can manage.
Well, do you know what, Thomas, it's your time to shine.
Let's have you answering a few questions, shall we?
1] How quickly was the bullet rotating?
2] If the bullet was rotating, how did it enter JBC's wrist base-first and then his thigh base-first?
3] In the pic below explain how the rotating bullet passed through the bone without leaving an appropriately sized hole.
4] In the pic below, explain how CE399 could have left the spread of metal fragments in the wound.
5] What do you mean when you use the word "sideswiped"?
6] In the pic below, how does the size of the hole in Connally's jacket suggest the bullet was tumbling?
7] Do you agree that the limo should have been treated like a crime scene?
8] Do you agree vital ballistic evidence may have ended up in the Secret Service's mop bucket?
That should keep you busy for a while.
--- Quote ---Who created CE-399, how did they create it, why did they create it, and who gave it to FBI agent Elmer Todd?
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Clearly, you're going to have to ask Elmer Todd.
These questions are part of your attempt to deflect from the following inconvenient truths:
Tomlinson, Wright, Johnsen and Rowley refused to identify CE399 as the bullet they handled that day.
O P Wright categorically denied that CE399 was the bullet he handled that day.
None of these men were asked to identify CE399 by the Warren Commission.
Wright and Johnsen were never asked to testify at all.
Rowley testified but was never asked about CE399.
Unbelievably, Tomlinson,the man who discovered the bullet in Parkland, testified AND WASN'T ASKED A SINGLE QUESTION ABOUT THE BULLET ITSELF!!
He wasn't shown the bullet to identify, he wasn't shown a picture of the bullet, he wasn't even asked to describe it!
FACT - CE399 was entered into evidence as the bullet found in Parkland without a single person vouching for it as such. NOBODY IDENTIFIED IT AS THE BULLET FOUND IN PARKLAND!
Only a Sham would operate like this.
Your silly questions will never hide what LNers are willing to turn a blind eye to regarding this case.
LOL!! ;)
Dan O'meara:
--- Quote from: Jim Hawthorn on April 03, 2025, 09:31:00 AM ---The conspirators would have had no idea about how much bullet debris was to be found in Kennedy, Connally or in the limo, so they would hardly introduce a slightly flattened bullet into the evidence trail, hoping that it would match what was found. That is just too far fetched. It really does look like CE399 was the "magic bullet". Not that this validates the lone nut theory though.
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;D
It certainly was magic, the way it appeared out of nowhere.
Even more magical is the transformation of the large bullet fragment that was handed to Highway Patrolman Bob Nolan which morphed into the four tiny bullet fragments labelled Q9.
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