JFK Assassination Computer Analysis Video!

[Tom Graves]

You got it Wrong. Just say so.

Storing,

No, you either made a boo-boo or you lied when you inaccurately accused me of saying Jones wrote something that somehow supports your tinfoil-hat CT, but in fact I had said it, not Jones, and I've since edited it so that it more accurately describes what Zapruder was or was not filming starting at frame Z-133.

[Royell Storing]

   Heaven forbid you get mixed up with Penn Jones. And here I thought you were finally on the Yellow Brick Road.

[Tom Graves]

So you're sticking with that "7 seconds" gap? You need to back your truck up and look at the film footage of the Motorcade as it came down Main St approaching Houston St. "What's past is prologue".

Storing,

Did you not notice where Penn Jones, Jr., wrote that the three motorcycles Zapruder filmed turning onto Elm Street were three or four blocks ahead of the limo, and did you not understand my explaining to you that after Zapruder turned off his camera, the four so-called LEAD MOTORCYCLES and the so-called LEAD CAR turned onto Elm Street but weren't caught on film because HE WASN'T FILMING AT THE TIME?

[Royell Storing]

        The 3 motorcycles we see on the Zapruder Film were originally part of 5 motorcycles. These 5 motorcycles were NOT 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo". Do you know how short of a "block" Houston St is? Your, 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo", would therefore put the JFK Limo 2-3 Blocks back on Main St when Zapruder filmed those 3 motorcycles turning onto Elm St. Yet, Sitzman said they could see the JFK Limo and the motorcade coming down Houston St from their elevated perch position. So how does Zapruder "mistakenly" film these 3 motorcycles when the JFK Limo is completely out of sight, 2-3 blocks back on Main St? Remember that there was a Pilot Car in front of the Lead Car. Maybe the motorcycles that were 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo" were motorcycles attached to the Pilot Car? The Pilot Car and the Lead Car were close to identical looking cars. 

[Tom Graves]

Sitzman said they could see the JFK Limo and the motorcade coming down Houston St from their elevated perch position.

Did she say they could see the limo when the three motorcycles were turning onto Elm Street?

[Tom Graves]

The 3 motorcycles we see on the Zapruder Film were originally part of 5 motorcycles. These 5 motorcycles were NOT 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo". Do you know how short of a "block" Houston St is? Your, 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo", would therefore put the JFK Limo 2-3 Blocks back on Main St when Zapruder filmed those 3 motorcycles turning onto Elm St. Yet, Sitzman said they could see the JFK Limo and the motorcade coming down Houston St from their elevated perch position. So how does Zapruder "mistakenly" film these 3 motorcycles when the JFK Limo is completely out of sight, 2-3 blocks back on Main St? Remember that there was a Pilot Car in front of the Lead Car. Maybe the motorcycles that were 3-4 blocks "ahead of the JFK Limo" were motorcycles attached to the Pilot Car? The Pilot Car and the Lead Car were close to identical looking cars.

Storing,

You're right that the three motorcycles turning onto Elm Street at the beginning of the Zapruder film were the three that remained in the Lead Motorcycles group when Brewer and Freeman left it to help the Advance Motorcycles group control the Stemmons Freeway traffic.

That still leaves the so-called Lead Car (with Curry, Lawson, Decker, and Sorrels) as the vehicle that immediately preceded the limo by several seconds and which wasn't caught in Zapruder's film for the simple reason that he wasn't filming at the time.

If you'll google https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/animation.htm , you'll see that this "Lead Car" was about 10 seconds ahead of the limo, and who-knows-how-far behind the aforementioned three motorcycles.

[Royell Storing]

   The Lead Car was nowhere close to 10 seconds ahead of the JFK Limo. Houston is a very short block. If you look at the film footage of the JFK Limo on Houston St, you can also SEE the Lead Car up ahead just beginning the turn onto Elm St. You got the gap between the motorcycles vs the JFK Limo wrong, and now you got the gap between the Lead Car and the JFK Limo wrong. Like I said, (1) you need to view the film footage of the JFK Limo coming down Main St. The motorcycles, the Lead Car, and the JFK Limo are easy to see. (2) View the film footage of the JFK Limo on Houston St. You can see the Lead Car just beginning the turn onto Elm St. A 10 SECOND GAP? Not even close.  Also, there is WC Testimony regarding the distance between the Lead Car and the JFK Limo. I think it was Driver Curry that was Q/A'd about that.