JFK Assassination Computer Analysis Video!

[Allan Fritzke]

There is really no need for computer analysis which is only as good as what you input into it and what parameters are selected as was pointed out pages ago in this thread.  Nothing can preclude common sense and the difference between circumstance and happenstance!   There only needs to be a few questions asked and there are no answers given.  You then reach credible conclusions when things are ignored or even too well documented.  The number 1) below is the "biggy"!

1)  The most important witness at the crime scene was never interviewed, recorded or allowed to give her eyewitness statement of account.  Jacqueline Kennedy.  From Zapruder film her gaze was down at the chest after the first shot.   Being that close, she would be able to tell you how many shots and how she thought a part of the brain ended up on the trunk.  The conclusion to draw from this is that what she would have told the public would not have aligned or even be allowed by those in charge of the investigation to fabricate and align their stories.   Is that not common sense when you ignore her?   Noteworthy, the FBI and not a local jurisdiction controlled the entire investigation affair.

2)  Oswald was in the limelight and was even photographed by the media and portrayed as a VIP.  Not only did he have money to travel... he defected to Russia...visited Cuba... then had his passport reinstated... then be at the right place...then the right time and ...then have all the right motives.  Patsy and grooming would be the best description of his actions and the most common sense terms to describe how and where he was.   Patsy is his own word to describe his own framing.   He didn't think his handlers would turn on him and that he would wear it.  He was a little naive to not see through the setup!

3)  His inability to speak due to his death is once more common sense.   If he was killed by the great "patriot" nightclub owner Jack Rubenstein for no apparent reason, actually makes no sense. He was also in media circles and circulated.
4)  Jack Ruby never being brought to trial before his death (or even issuing statements from anyone interviewing him and stayed alive)  brings that to a dead end as well.
5)  Having an enemy of JFK such as Allen Dulles (after being fired by JFK), be part of an appointed Warren Commission investigation is also glaringly common sense and obviously common sense.  No grand jury!

You really do not need a computer analysis to analyze the common sense of what the above is telling you.  Do you think you can win the lottery?  Happenstance versus circumstance!  Maybe can run it through a computer's algorithm!

The truth about who runs government and controls things is too obvious.   The elites, the rich and the deep state (made up of the un-elected)  should lead any reasonable observer to a common sense conclusion.   Here is another good example.  Suppose Epstein actually was a CIA operative, well paid and was there to collect dirt on politicians so that they could be controlled....wouldn't that makes sense as well as part of a CIA team?   No cameras, no cellmate, suicide watch, sleeping guards and then have him disappear.   Definitely was suicide!   You might label him a modern day patsy!   You just have a controlled media to report or not report what you deemed is newsworthy to the general public.  The term controlled speech should come to mind.  Narrative control is what CIA is and was good at and is being used on the people since its formation and the beginning of time.  Their use of the media was brought up in the 70's and they went off camera in the investigation of it as they would rather not talk about it.   I think that was the House Intelligence Committee as circulated on youtube - Operation Mockinghttps://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2006.0.html

One more thing,  Bush Sr.,  Bush Jr. Bill Clinton and then almost Hilary as President should lead you to conclude that there are no better Presidents than those that are found from within a circle of friends.  You should be vary wary of NGOs and who runs them.  All the elites seems to use them and have them to bypass tax laws and use money to influence public opinion without ever having to pay tax and skim off in the process.

Whether it was secret societies, Skull & bones or the group of Free Masons that made up the Warren Commission (including Zapruder), you must question allegiances and how much power there is at the top end of society.  Who is being groomed and for what positions?  It would certainly appear to be a controlled democracy and NOT in the hands of the people that vote!   Look at the Washington Monument, the Pentagon and the White House, the street pattern in Washington as an example.  Was this not designed by a group that made decisions on "behalf" of the people?    Not to mention the pyramid and eye on every 1 dollar bond note!  Alas only conspiracy that can never be proven to mean anything! And so it went with JFK and his brother.  There is no there....there!

[Tom Graves]

There is really no need for computer analysis which is only as good as what you input into it and what parameters are selected as was pointed out pages ago in this thread.  Nothing can preclude common sense and the difference between circumstance and happenstance!   There only needs to be a few questions asked and there are no answers given.  You then reach credible conclusions when things are ignored or even too well documented.  The number 1) below is the "biggy"!

1)  The most important witness at the crime scene was never interviewed, recorded or allowed to give her eyewitness statement of account.  Jacqueline Kennedy.  From Zapruder film her gaze was down at the chest after the first shot.   Being that close, she would be able to tell you how many shots and how she thought a part of the brain ended up on the trunk.  The conclusion to draw from this is that what she would have told the public would not have aligned or even be allowed by those in charge of the investigation to fabricate and align their stories.   Is that not common sense when you ignore her?   Noteworthy, the FBI and not a local jurisdiction controlled the entire investigation affair.

2)  Oswald was in the limelight and was even photographed by the media and portrayed as a VIP.  Not only did he have money to travel... he defected to Russia...visited Cuba... then had his passport reinstated... then be at the right place...then the right time and ...then have all the right motives.  Patsy and grooming would be the best description of his actions and the most common sense terms to describe how and where he was.   Patsy is his own word to describe his own framing.   He didn't think his handlers would turn on him and that he would wear it.  He was a little naive to not see through the setup!

3)  His inability to speak due to his death is once more common sense.   If he was killed by the great "patriot" nightclub owner Jack Rubenstein for no apparent reason, actually makes no sense. He was also in media circles and circulated.
4)  Jack Ruby never being brought to trial before his death (or even issuing statements from anyone interviewing him and stayed alive)  brings that to a dead end as well.
5)  Having an enemy of JFK such as Allen Dulles (after being fired by JFK), be part of an appointed Warren Commission investigation is also glaringly common sense and obviously common sense.  No grand jury!

You really do not need a computer analysis to analyze the common sense of what the above is telling you.  Do you think you can win the lottery?  Happenstance versus circumstance!  Maybe can run it through a computer's algorithm!

The truth about who runs government and controls things is too obvious.   The elites, the rich and the deep state (made up of the un-elected)  should lead any reasonable observer to a common sense conclusion.   Here is another good example.  Suppose Epstein actually was a CIA operative, well paid and was there to collect dirt on politicians so that they could be controlled....wouldn't that makes sense as well as part of a CIA team?   No cameras, no cellmate, suicide watch, sleeping guards and then have him disappear.   Definitely was suicide!   You might label him a modern day patsy!   You just have a controlled media to report or not report what you deemed is newsworthy to the general public.  The term controlled speech should come to mind.  Narrative control is what CIA is and was good at and is being used on the people since its formation and the beginning of time.  Their use of the media was brought up in the 70's and they went off camera in the investigation of it as they would rather not talk about it.   I think that was the House Intelligence Committee as circulated on youtube - Operation Mockinghttps://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2006.0.html

One more thing,  Bush Sr.,  Bush Jr. Bill Clinton and then almost Hilary as President should lead you to conclude that there are no better Presidents than those that are found from within a circle of friends.  You should be vary wary of NGOs and who runs them.  All the elites seems to use them and have them to bypass tax laws and use money to influence public opinion without ever having to pay tax and skim off in the process.

Whether it was secret societies, Skull & bones or the group of Free Masons that made up the Warren Commission (including Zapruder), you must question allegiances and how much power there is at the top end of society.  Who is being groomed and for what positions?  It would certainly appear to be a controlled democracy and NOT in the hands of the people that vote!   Look at the Washington Monument, the Pentagon and the White House, the street pattern in Washington as an example.  Was this not designed by a group that made decisions on "behalf" of the people?    Not to mention the pyramid and eye on every 1 dollar bond note!  Alas only conspiracy that can never be proven to mean anything! And so it went with JFK and his brother.  There is no there....there!

What a load of you-know-what.

The 2020 Scientific analysis (google "estimating occult timing") of Roselle and Scearce of the conscious reactions of seven witnesses (including JFK, Jackie, and Governor Connally) to the sounds of the first (missing everything) shot indicate that all three shots were fired over 10.2 seconds in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza. Ballistics analysis of “The Magic Bullet” (CE-399) and the large fragments found inside the limousine has shown that the two bullets that hit JFK (one of which, CE-399, also hit Connally) were fired from Oswald’s rifle, and analysis of the wounds that JFK and JBC sustained has shown that the bullets were fired from above and behind them. The “Single Bullet Theory” is correct. JFK reacted more quickly (or at least more noticeably) to being struck than Connally did because JFK’s spinal column was nicked whereas Connally’s wasn’t. It is interesting to note, however, that Connally’s jacket puffed outwards and his lapel flapped immediately after JFK was hit. Regarding JFK’s dramatic post-Z-313 “back-and-to-the-left” head movement, it had already started going violently forward-and-down between Z-312 and Z-313. His upper torso was “flung” back and to his left after Z-313 due to his sitting and wearing a tight back brace while having the right side of his brain destroyed; his head went backwards after Z-313 due to a Newtonian “jet effect,” not due to some imaginary bullet fired from the Grassy Knoll or the manhole cover or [fill in the blank].

[Royell Storing]

  This is what is now being endlessly repeated in order to try and make the bolt action "3 Shot" scenario work. Max Holland's 10+ Second Fever Dream is a tough sell when you break it down. We have: (1) 1st shot being fired while the JFK Limo was turning onto Elm St, (2) Shooter 6 stories high, (3) Shooter in a Standing Position, (3) Shooter firing through a 1/2 open window, (4) Shooter firing almost straight down, (5) Moving the physical position of the JFK Limo on Elm St, and (6) Explaining where that 1st shot bullet ended up. These mandatory factual gymnastics makes clear how tough it is to sell the Bolt Action 3 Shot Scenario.   

[Tom Graves]

This is what is now being endlessly repeated in order to try and make the bolt action "3 Shot" scenario work. Max Holland's 10+ Second Fever Dream is a tough sell when you break it down. We have: (1) 1st shot being fired while the JFK Limo was turning onto Elm St, (2) Shooter 6 stories high, (3) Shooter in a Standing Position, (3) Shooter firing through a 1/2 open window, (4) Shooter firing almost straight down, (5) Moving the physical position of the JFK Limo on Elm St, and (6) Explaining where that 1st shot bullet ended up. These mandatory factual gymnastics makes clear how tough it is to sell the Bolt Action 3 Shot Scenario.

Storing,

Max Holland's theory posits the first (missing-everything) shot at hypothetical "Z-107," a total elapsed firing time of 11.25 seconds, the limo's straightening out on Elm Street, the 5' 9.5" shooter in a standing/crouching position for the first shot only, the shooter's firing through a 1/4 to 1/3 open window, and the shooter's firing almost straight down for the first shot only.

The scenario proposed by Roselle and Scearce posits the first (missing-everything) shot at hypothetical "Z-124," a total elapsed firing time of 10.2 seconds, the limo's already being straightened out on Elm Street, the 5' 9.5" shooter's firing from a standing/crouching firing position for the first shot only, the shooter's firing through a 1/4 to 1/3 open window, and the shooter's firing sharply downward, but not "almost straight down" for the first shot only.

[Royell Storing]

  You can quibble over "almost straight down" vs "sharply downward", but Holland's "Lost Bullet" demonstration of the shooter playing "Jack In The Box" with the standing posture and then sitting down to allegedly fire 2 more shots is pure  So now we have the POTUS under steady fire for 11+ seconds and absolutely nobody on the SS does Jack over that extended time period? I was reviewing the Dan Rather description to the nation regarding the Zapruder Film he watched the Sunday after the assassination. Rather described seeing the JFK Limo turning from Houston St onto Elm St on the Zapruder Film he watched. You guys that are buying into a 10-11 seconds elapsed time for the 3 shots to be fired, are also justifying the claims that the Current Zapruder Film Not showing this Limo turn is due to the film being Altered.   

[Tom Graves]

You can quibble over "almost straight down" vs "sharply downward", but Holland's "Lost Bullet" demonstration of the shooter playing "Jack In The Box" with the standing posture and then sitting down to allegedly fire 2 more shots is pure  So now we have the POTUS under steady fire for 11+ seconds and absolutely nobody on the SS does Jack over that extended time period? I was reviewing the Dan Rather description to the nation regarding the Zapruder Film he watched the Sunday after the assassination. Rather described seeing the JFK Limo turning from Houston St onto Elm St on the Zapruder Film he watched. You guys that are buying into a 10-11 seconds elapsed time for the 3 shots to be fired, are also justifying the claims that the Current Zapruder Film Not showing this Limo turn is due to the film being Altered.

Storing,

Why do you obsess so much on Max Holland's very early first-shot theory?

Have you never heard of Roselle's and Scearce's early first-shot theory?

Do you only talk about Holland's theory because you think it's easier to rebut than Roselle's and Scearce's?

You do realize that the limo was farther down Elm Street at hypothetical "Z-124" (per Roselle and Scearce) than at hypothetical "Z-107" (per Holland), don't you?

Also, aren't you aware that Zapruder, having been fooled by the passing of the advance car, the pilot car, the lead car, and some motorcycle policemen into thinking that the limo would be next, realized that it just wasn't "happening" quite yet, so he paused filming for seven seconds in order to save precious film and didn't resume until he could actually see, with his very own eyes, the limo heading straight towards him?

Rather's saying he watched the limo turn onto Elm Street in the Zapruder film was an exaggeration, nothing more. I'm sure that if he'd known that you and your tinfoil-hat JFKA CT ilk would take his words literally, he probably would have said, "Storing, I didn't actually see the President's car turn left onto Elm Street in the film, okay? If it's okay with you and your tinfoil-hat JFKA Conspiracy Theorist ilk buddies, I assumed that it had turned left onto Elm from Houston because all of the cars and motorcycles ahead of it had."

[Royell Storing]

Storing,

Why do you obsess so much on Max Holland's very early first-shot theory?

Have you never heard of Roselle's and Scearce's early first-shot theory?

Do you talk about only Holland's theory because you think it's easier to rebut than Roselle's and Scearce's?

You do realize that the limo was farther down Elm Street at hypothetical "Z-124" (per Roselle and Scearce) than at hypothetical "Z-107" (per Holland), don't you?

Also, aren't you aware that Zapruder, having been fooled by the passing of the advance car, the pilot car, the lead car, and some motorcycle policemen into thinking that the limo would be next, realized that it just wasn't "happening" quite yet, so he paused filming for seven seconds in order to save precious film and didn't resume until he could actually see, with his very own eyes, the limo heading straight towards him?

Rather's saying he watched the limo turn onto Elm Street in the Zapruder film was an exaggeration, nothing more. I'm sure that if he'd known that you and your tinfoil-hat JFKA CT ilk would take his words literally, he probably would have said, "Storing, I didn't actually see the President's car turn left onto Elm Street in the film, okay? If it's okay with you and your tinfoil-hat JFKA Conspiracy Theorist ilk buddies, I assumed that it had turned left onto Elm from Houston because all of the cars and motorcycles ahead of it had."

   Pres JFK has been assassinated and there is only 1 known film capturing the Kill Shot. And You think Dan Rather is going to be loose with his verbiage and exaggerate what he has seen on this film in front of a Live National audience? That is not realistic on its' face. The career implications for Rather further rule out your conjecture.
    Holland somehow had the ear of National Geographic. That says he has some sway with the media Muckety Mucks. Those 2 guys you are pushing are Bush League in comparison. Their megaphone is not close to Holland's.
    You believe the JFK Limo was 7 seconds behind those 3 Lead Motorcycles? Stop trying to pass your opinion off as being a fact.  And Sitzman has said they could see the JFK Limo coming down Houston St. There's no excuse for the JFK Limo suddenly POPPING onto the Z Film.