Why is Ruth Paine still alive?

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2025, 07:50:20 PM »
Keep in mind that you're dealing with people who believe that "cop said so" makes anything conclusive.

When it comes to the JFK assassination, KGB disinformation is much more reliable than what U.S. authorities say about it, right, Iacoletti?

E.g., "Clay Shaw was a fascist CIA agent."

LOL!
« Last Edit: March 01, 2025, 01:46:20 PM by Tom Graves »

Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2025, 01:12:05 AM »
I think I agree with Steve. There  is not enough evidence to warrant that Ruth Paine was a  conspirator informer.  She  might  unwittingly have had some of her notes about Oswald being found by somebody pre event, but there is no evidence of that either. Therefore it was an unwarranted speculation on my part to suggest Ruth Paine was a conspirator and I apologize for that.

Plus, I actually use Ruth Paines WC testimony in favor of CT argument because of her observation of the rifle wrapped up in the blanket that was presented to her at her interview, as being not as”flat” as what she remembered seeing the shape of the blanket in the garage in Oct 63 ( she guesses it was Oct but she is not certain).



Offline Tom Sorensen

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2025, 03:36:02 PM »
This OP is easily the dumbest I've seen in a while; let's hope this dude doesn't practice law anymore. Ruth Paine was, and still is, all in on the LN narrative, wasting no opportunity to trash talk Oswald. It would make zero sense to eliminate a LN (and Warren Commission) life-long loyalist. Same goes for Michael Paine. RP willingly cooked up all sorts of suspicious incidents tied to Oswald to fuel the official narrative. However, she never went over the top. Back in the day, she was fast and very smart. Most likely a low-level informant along with Michael. After separating from Michael, and probably even earlier, she was getting bored and looked to turn the excitement level up a notch by offering to keep tabs on the Oswalds. I think she honestly saw the opportunity to improve her language skills as well. I doubt she was aware of what was in store for Oswald at a higher level to qualify as a conspirator.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2025, 04:50:30 PM »
Our contrarians are getting lazy.  Why haven't they argued that the evidence is insufficient to conclude that Ruth Paine is still alive just because "someone says so."  Leaving open the possibility that she was actually silenced by roving CIA death squads decades ago and replaced by a "double."  No one has ruled this possibility out with "conclusive evidence."  LOL.  We only have circumstantial evidence and the word of those who allegedly came into contact with a person claiming to be Ruth Paine.  That is sufficient to create false doubt in the contrarian "mind" in other contexts.   

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2025, 07:16:26 PM »
Our contrarians are getting lazy.  Why haven't they argued that the evidence is insufficient to conclude that Ruth Paine is still alive just because "someone says so."  Leaving open the possibility that she was actually silenced by roving CIA death squads decades ago and replaced by a "double."

Yet another ridiculous argument by "Richard".  Nobody believes that Ruth Paine is still alive just because someone says so.

Interesting also that "Richard" is the one here invoking CIA death squads and doubles.  Yet in Strawman "Smith's" fevered imagination, this nonsense is somehow supposed to prove that Oswald did it.
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2025, 09:33:00 PM »
Yet another ridiculous argument by "Richard".  Nobody believes that Ruth Paine is still alive just because someone says so.

Interesting also that "Richard" is the one here invoking CIA death squads and doubles.  Yet in Strawman "Smith's" fevered imagination, this nonsense is somehow supposed to prove that Oswald did it.

Do you prefer to believe that the tremendous number of witnesses who died within one or two years were killed by solo hitmen rather than by roving death squads?