Why is Ruth Paine still alive?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2025, 08:16:26 PM »
But there's nothing that would have prevented Ruth from just making up a couple of lies on Day 1 (Nov. 22) about how she did see the rifle in the garage and also seeing Oswald leaving the house on 11/22 with a long package.

If she had, how would you distinguish between Ruth lying to frame Oswald and Ruth telling the truth because Oswald really did all that?

This is another example of the LN-faithful trying to have it both ways.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2025, 08:22:35 PM »
Yes, I'm eagerly awaiting!

And as expected it appears you haven't the foggiest. This is not a good start.

Exactly I have no idea what you believe to be "conclusive evidence", that's why I asked the question!
So without further ado, please tell me what you think is your definition of "conclusive evidence" and then instead of the endless roadblocks maybe we can forge ahead and together we solve this case, K?

JohnM

I have already told you.  Conclusive evidence is selfexplanatory and doesn't require long winded explanations and assumptions
« Last Edit: February 21, 2025, 09:04:30 AM by Martin Weidmann »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2025, 08:29:37 PM »
In the same vein, I've never understood (or have been giving a plausible explanation for) why Michael Paine suddenly decided to leave work early and drive to Irving "to see if he could help".

Not to mention the "we both know who is responsible" phone call.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2025, 08:31:35 PM »
Martin said previously that he isn't a conspiracy theorist because he doesn't have a theory, even though his theory is there was a conspiracy, so go figure?
I recall that Iacoletti subscribes to the same mindset.
Strange isn't it!

Neither one of us have a conspiracy theory.  This is just the usual "Mytton" misinformation.

"Conspiracy theorist" is a euphemism among the LN-faithful to mean "dares to question any aspect of our theology".

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2025, 08:36:30 PM »
Martin said previously that he isn't a conspiracy theorist because he doesn't have a theory, even though his theory is there was a conspiracy, so go figure?
I recall that Iacoletti subscribes to the same mindset.
Strange isn't it!

JohnM

even though his theory is there was a conspiracy

Where and when exactly did I tell you this?

Or did you make it up?

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2025, 06:42:23 AM »
I have already told you.  Conlusive evidence is selfexplanatory and doesn't require long winded explanations and assumptions

I'm still not clear what you believe is "Conclusive Evidence"?

Btw, I would still like to know the difference between "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" and "guilty beyond all doubt", and the level and type of evidence required for each standard?

JohnM
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Why is Ruth Paine still alive?
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2025, 07:01:19 AM »
I'm still not clear what you believe is "Conclusive Evidence"?

Btw, I would still like to know the difference between "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" and "guilty beyond all doubt", and the level and type of evidence required for each standard?

JohnM

What part of;

Conclusive evidence is selfexplanatory and doesn't require long winded explanations and assumptions

don't you understand?
« Last Edit: February 21, 2025, 09:03:41 AM by Martin Weidmann »