On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown

[Martin Weidmann]

You don't think any of it was "made up"?

This probably goes way over your head, but the best lie is the one that stays as close as possible to the truth.

So, no I don't think that "any of it" (whatever that means) was made up.
Physical evidence does not need to be made up when it can be manipulated in a highly circumstantial case like this one.

Let's see if you understand what I am trying to tell you. Marina said that Oswald wanted to get back together with her and she turned him down.
He then apparently gave her most of his money and left his wedding ring in a cup before leaving for the TSBD on Friday morning.
The benign explanation is that he understood his marriage was over but in a circumstantial case against him it suddenly becomes "evidence" that he killed Kennedy.
Can you explain to me why the circumstantial story has more merit than the benign explanation?

[David Von Pein]

Marina said that Oswald wanted to get back together with her and she turned him down. He then apparently gave her most of his money and left his wedding ring in a cup before leaving for the TSBD on Friday morning. The benign explanation is that he understood his marriage was over but in a circumstantial case against him it suddenly becomes "evidence" that he killed Kennedy. Can you explain to me why the circumstantial story has more merit than the benign explanation?

Probably because multiple pieces of evidence turned up the next day to indicate that LHO had committed two murders.

Could that be it?

(Duh.)

[Martin Weidmann]

Probably because multiple pieces of evidence turned up the next day to indicate that LHO had committed two murders.

Could that be it?

(Duh.)

No, not really....

It's supposition at best... for the circumstantial story to be true you have to ignore the testimony of Marina Oswald and Ruth Paine who both said they believed that Oswald had travelled to Irving to save his marriage.

And even then, the circumstantial story does not work, because another part of that same story claims that Oswald made a paper bag at the TSBD and took it to Irving on Thursday evening, which means his mind to collect the rifle that was alleged to be there was already made up. So, if you claim that he had already planned to kill Kennedy the next day, why would he try so hard to get Marina to come back to him. It doesn't make sense.

[Tom Graves]

This probably goes way over your head, but the best lie is the one that stays as close as possible to the truth.

So, no I don't think that "any of it" (whatever that means) was made up.
Physical evidence does not need to be made up when it can be manipulated in a highly circumstantial case like this one.

Let's see if you understand what I am trying to tell you. Marina said that Oswald wanted to get back together with her and she turned him down.
He then apparently gave her most of his money and left his wedding ring in a cup before leaving for the TSBD on Friday morning.
The benign explanation is that he understood his marriage was over but in a circumstantial case against him it suddenly becomes "evidence" that he killed Kennedy.
Can you explain to me why the circumstantial story has more merit than the benign explanation?

Marina?

Marina Oswald, née Prusakova?

The Soviet woman (and former KGB "swallow" in Saint Petersburg) whom true KGB defector Pyotr Deriabin (1954) said a couple of days after the assassination had to be, at the very least, a low-level KGB informant to be permitted to marry her Handsome Prince Charming and leave The Worker's Paradise with him?

That Marina?

[Martin Weidmann]

Marina?

Marina Oswald, née Prusakova?

The Soviet woman (and former KGB "swallow" in Saint Petersburg) whom true KGB defector Pyotr Deriabin (1954) said a couple of days after the assassination had to be, at the very least, a low-level KGB informant to be permitted to marry her Handsome Prince Charming and leave The Worker's Paradise with him?

That Marina?

Hilarious..... 

Yes, the same Marina you rely on for the alleged presence of a rifle, wrapped in a blanket, in Ruth Paine's garage.

And never mind that Ruth Paine said the same thing, right?

How did you become so desperate so quickly?

Care to try again?

[Tom Graves]

Hilarious..... 

Yes, the same Marina you rely on for the alleged presence of a rifle, wrapped in a blanket, in Ruth Paine's garage.

And never mind that Ruth Paine said the same thing, right?

How did you become so desperate so quickly?

Care to try again?

I was just commenting on Marina's overall reliability.

Hint: The best double agents tell 98% truth and 2% lies.

Questions:

Did the short-rifle have fibers on it that matched the fibers of the blanket, or were those fabricated / planted, too?

Did the short-rifle have Oswald's prints on it, or were those fabricated / planted, too?

[Martin Weidmann]

Did the short-rifle have fibers on it that matched the fibers of the blanket, or were those fabricated / planted, too?

Did the short-rifle have Oswald's prints on it, or were those fabricated / planted, too?

There is no such thing as fibers matching. At best fibers can be similar which is hardly conclusive.

What prints are you talking about? The FBI lab in Washington examined the rifle found at the TSBD and found no prints on it at all.

And how does a rifle found at the TSBD automatically becomes a rifle that was allegedly stored in Ruth Paine's garage?