On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown

[Tom Graves]

Given the fact that Oswald was seen shooting at JFK by Howard Brennan . . .

Was he?

Jeez, I thought you knew that.

... that he left the TSBD without permission within 3 minutes of the shooting ...

Did somebody see him leave the TSBD within 3 minutes of the shooting? If so, name that that person!

What time did he get on McWatters' bus? What time did he get into or out of Whaley's taxi?

... that his prints were found on two (or was it three?) boxes in the Sniper's Nest ...

The man worked on that floor and part of his job was to get books out of boxes..... Is this the best you've got?

Prints don't last very long on cardboard. What are the chances of finding Oswald's prints on even two strangely positioned boxes in the Sniper's Nest?

... and on the paper bag ...

On what paper bag? The one the WC claimed was in the sniper's nest, but couldn't provide an in situ photograph for? And the one Buell Frazier was shown on Friday evening and said it wasn't the one Oswald had carried to the TSBD?

The paper bag that was made from the same roll of paper that was in the 1st floor's wrapping department, and which had his prints on it and fibers that matched the fibers of his blanket in it.

... how would the case against the sharpshooting, psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist have been destroyed if everything his little KGB-agent wife said about him and his short-rifle, etc., had been disregarded? 

If you have to ask this question, it only shows how little you understand about this case and how much you are out of your league.

If you can't answer them, I totally understand.

[Tom Graves]

Stop showing your desperation and start providing conclusive evidence that demonstrates Oswald's guilt.

How many?

Tens of thousands?

Gasp . . . the whole freakin' "Deep State" / "National Security State"?

LOL!

[Martin Weidmann]

Given the fact that Oswald was seen shooting at JFK by Howard Brennan . . .

Was he?

Jeez, I thought you knew that.

Knew what? All I know is that Brennan couldn't identify Oswald at the line up, that the WC lied about where he was actually sitting on the wall and that video evidence showed that Brennan was looking at the motorcade when the shots were fired.

... that he left the TSBD without permission within 3 minutes of the shooting ...

Did somebody see him leave the TSBD within 3 minutes of the shooting? If so, name that that person!

What time did he get on McWatters' bus? What time did he get into or out of Whaley's taxi?

So, there's nobody who saw Oswald leave the TSBD within three minutes after the shooting? Got it...

... that his prints were found on two (or was it three?) boxes in the Sniper's Nest ...

The man worked on that floor and part of his job was to get books out of boxes..... Is this the best you've got?

Prints don't last very long on cardboard. What are the chances of finding Oswald's prints on even two strangely positioned boxes in the Sniper's Nest?

I don't know. There were other prints on the boxes which could not be identified. What are the chances that only Oswald's prints were found on those boxes and none of the others could be identified?

... and on the paper bag ...

On what paper bag? The one the WC claimed was in the sniper's nest, but couldn't provide an in situ photograph for? And the one Buell Frazier was shown on Friday evening and said it wasn't the one Oswald had carried to the TSBD?

The paper bag that was made from the same roll of paper that was in the 1st floor's wrapping department, and which had his prints on it and fibers that matched the fibers of his blanket in it.

... how would the case against the sharpshooting, psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist have been destroyed if everything his little KGB-agent wife said about him and his short-rifle, etc., had been disregarded? 

You are aware of the fact that DPD officers made a paper bag at the TSBD on friday afternoon, right?

Are you also aware that the paper bag was photographed at the FBI lab, laying next to the blanket taken from Ruth Paine's garage?

And what about the fact that the WC claimed the bag was found folded up, but when it was brought out of the TSBD it was photographed unfolded, but no prints were found of anybody who unfolded it?

Btw, when the bag was brought out of the TSBD it was upside down, it makes you wonder how fibers would not have fallen out, right?

If you have to ask this question, it only shows how little you understand about this case and how much you are out of your league.

If you can't answer them, I totally understand.

The only one who is answering questions is me... You seem to come up short at every question I asked you.

[Martin Weidmann]

How many?

Tens of thousands?

Gasp . . . the whole freakin' "Deep State" / "National Security State"?

LOL!

Thank you for demonstrating so clearly that you can not provide a shred of conclusive evidence of Oswald's guilt.

You are just a waste of time....

[John Mytton]

Wasn't Oswald's palm print found on the short-rifle by the DPD (or was it planted there by the bad guys who lifted off of Oswald's corpse at the morgue?), and weren't some fingerprints detected by the DPD on the trigger guard area, photographed by the DPD, and later determined by a fingerprint expert from said photographs to be Oswald's?

We know for a fact that Oswald touched the rifle;

1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle and Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects. To have 1 random matching point could be a wild coincidence, but as more and more points were discovered the chances of discovering each additional point increases by an order of magnitude, therefore Oswald touched the rifle!

The FBI evidence.



And here I made an alternating GIF showing the exact matches and if you look closely there are other matches.



2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.

3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle can be equally discounted because dead men don't sweat and on the Sunday evening long before the FBI allegedly visited Oswald, the Dallas County Officials had already disclosed that a Palm print was discovered on the rifle.



JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

We know for a fact that Oswald touched the rifle;

1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle and Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects. To have 1 random matching point could be a wild coincidence, but as more and more points were discovered the chances of discovering each additional point increases by an order of magnitude, therefore Oswald touched the rifle!

The FBI evidence.



And here I made an alternating GIF showing the exact matches and if you look closely there are other matches.



2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.

3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle can be equally discounted because dead men don't sweat and on the Sunday evening long before the FBI allegedly visited Oswald, the Dallas County Officials had already disclosed that a Palm print was discovered on the rifle.



JohnM

1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle

No they didn't.

Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects.

Day only produced an evidence card with a print on it when the evidence had to be turned over to the FBI, several days after the assassination.


2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.

And how do we know for sure that Vincent Scalice was given "original photographs of the trigger guard prints"? Or, for that matter, how did he obtain the prints of Oswald he compared them with?

3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle

Who claimed that it did?

[John Mytton]

1)The FBI took a lift of Oswald's rifle

No they didn't.

Day's first day lift showed the exact same random defects.

Day only produced an evidence card with a print on it when the evidence had to be turned over to the FBI, several days after the assassination.


2) In 1993 Vincent Scalice examined original photographs of the trigger guard prints which were taken at different exposures and in comparing these photos Scalice discovered many more ridge matches than were required for a positive result.

And how do we know for sure that Vincent Scalice was given "original photographs of the trigger guard prints"? Or, for that matter, how did he obtain the prints of Oswald he compared them with?

3) Also the absurd excuse that Oswald's dead palm touched the rifle

Who claimed that it did?

So the FBI manufactured their lift of the rifle?
So Day manufactured the date and his lift of the rifle?
So Scalice didn't have original photographs of Oswald's rifle and used manufactured photo's?

Hahahahahaha!

Otherwise you won't accept it because "it's possible" it was manufactured.

What piece of evidence did I claim was manufactured? Be precise.... just show me a link to one of my posts or shut up!

BTW Martin, don't ever stop being you, because from just 1 post you again prove that you are just so damn entertaining!

JohnM