On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2025, 06:54:08 PM »
In return, I'll give you the standard script that all LN-evangelists follow.

- first they claim as a fact that Oswald did it

- then when challenged to prove it, they regurgitate the official made-up narrative

- when asked what their evidence is that the narrative is true, they say “see the Warren Commission Report”

- when you point out that “see the Warren Report” is not evidence, but rather an appeal to authority, they then trot out the usual laundry list of non-evidence and false, misleading, and unsubstantiated claims about the evidence by cutting and pasting quotes from Bugliosi, Posner, McAdams, Von Pein, or Myers.

- when it’s pointed out to them that claims are not evidence, that the evidence does not support the claims, and what all the discrepancies, contradictions, and authenticity issues there are that are endemic to the case, they then trot out “oh yeah, then you have to prove that I’m wrong or prove that somebody else did it”.

- when you point out that shifting the burden is a logical fallacy and that the person making the claim has the burden of proof, and that an inability to prove something different does absolutely nothing to prove their claim that Oswald did it, then they insult you and/or block you and declare victory.

And that’s the best-case scenario. Usually they just jump right to the insult.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2025, 07:22:37 PM »
And, of course, John Iacoletti gets to decide if the evidence qualifies as "reliable" or not.

And, naturally, he has decided that ALL of the evidence against Oswald should be labeled "unreliable" because....well....because....well....he gets to decide such things. Naturally.

When you say "ALL of the evidence against Oswald", you're talking about ridiculous crap like "why did he leave his wedding ring", right?

If you can come up with even one piece of evidence you think points to Oswald and is reliable, I'll be happy to explain why it isn't.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2025, 09:51:09 PM »

When challenged to prove [Oswald killed JFK], [LNs] regurgitate the official made-up narrative [the Warren Report].


What makes you think the Warren Report was made up?

How much of it do you think (sic) was made up?

All of it?

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2025, 12:19:37 AM »
What makes you think the Warren Report was made up?

How much of it do you think (sic) was made up?

All of it?

What makes you think the Warren Report wasn't made up?

Online Tom Graves

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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2025, 12:25:55 AM »
What makes you think the Warren Report wasn't made up?

What makes you think it was?

Because it concluded that a sharpshooting, psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist killed JFK?

Do you think all three shots were fired in six seconds, or so?

LOL!

Would you much prefer that it found the evil, evil, evil CIA and/or the evil, evil, evil CIA and the evil, evil, evil Mafia killed him?
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2025, 12:32:49 AM »
What makes you think it was?

Because it concluded that a sharpshooting, psychologically disturbed, self-described Marxist killed JFK?

Do you think all three shots were fired in six seconds, or so?

LOL!

Would you much prefer that it found the evil, evil, evil CIA and/or the evil, evil, evil CIA and the evil, evil, evil Mafia killed him?

What makes you think it was?

Where did I say that?

So, no answer to my question? Got it....  Thumb1:


Online Tom Graves

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Re: On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 11 with Bill Brown
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2025, 12:34:16 AM »
What makes you think it was?

Where did I say that?

So, no answer to my question? Got it....  Thumb1:

You don't think any of it was "made up"?