JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2024, 06:36:12 PM »
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Willis gave more details in the story that can be read here: https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3899.msg154068.html#msg154068

She said she heard three shots and that all came from direction of the TSBD. But she insisted that "someone with a silencer" could have been the one who killed JFK and that "Oswald was up there as clear as could be. I think he was up there on purpose to make people think he was the one."

"Up there to make people think he was the one"? And he would do this why?

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Re: JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2024, 06:36:12 PM »


Offline Jim Hawthorn

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Re: JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2024, 06:48:22 PM »
So, we have the shot heard by some people as the limo turned onto Elm + the shot that stopped Rosemary in her tracks.
Two audible shots before the magic bullet.

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Re: JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2024, 08:30:43 PM »
Thanks, Gerry. Look at this enhanced version of the Zapruder film depicting Rosemary Willis's slow-motion movements. As one can see, she turned her head toward the Texas School Book Depository, a movement which she commenced at approximately z142; her face is in shadow. In my opinion, it is evident from this video that at no time is "the light flesh tone on Rosemary's face faded or by glare or had blurred to white for a frame or two in the z140s." I also contend that Miss Willis is looking toward the Depository as early as circa z142, an action she undertook possibly in response to her hearing the first shot, which may have occurred a fraction of a second before z142. One must not overlook this action by Miss Willis with regard to the number and timing of shots. It is imperative from a historical point of view.

It's difficult for me to determine whether and when she turns her head to watch/see the limo as she's running and/or whether and when it's because of the gunshot. Wouldn't she stop when hearing the gunshot? But she's running (slowing down along the way) and turning her head at the same time.

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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2024, 09:37:15 PM »
Pseudo Z105 (shot-1) to Z133 is 28 frames, which is 1.48 sec based on 27 frames (based on needing 1 frame to reach the ears).
So, Willis  would have had a voluntary reaction say at pseudo Z115 (ie 10 frames after shot-1)(well before Z133).
And Willis would have had an involuntary startle reaction say at pseudo Z110 (ie 5 frames after shot-1).

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Re: JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2024, 06:46:05 PM »
  Watched an old Jack White video on "You Tube" the other day. Jack had some screwy JFK Assassination ideas during his time, but on this video he made a solid but simple Z Film observation addressing this same segment of the film. He wondered why we see a Bee Hive of activity on the (S) side of Elm St, (Willis kid running/stopping, Old Man Willis stepping from Elm St back onto the curb, Bob Croft lowering his camera from his face, the Old Woman wildly waving her handkerchief at JFK, etc, but all the people stretching down the (N) side of Elm St are almost stock still throughout this same period of time. This is an extremely strange Z Film contrast.
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It should be pointed out again and again that the most sophisticated trajectory analysis ever done refutes the single-bullet theory. The analysis was done by Knott Laboratory in 2023. The Knott Lab engineers placed the JFK and JBC figures after creating a digital twin of Dealey Plaza and then using AI-assisted photogrammetric analysis of the Zapruder film, photos of the limo, and various other photos to place the figures in the limousine. They made the digital twin of the plaza by doing an exhaustive laser survey of the plaza, collecting millions of data points to enable a digital 3D recreation of the plaza that was an exact duplicate of the plaza in every aspect. After making the digital twin, they used photogrammetric analysis to place the Kennedy and Connally figures in the limousine (as well as to place the limousine in the correct position on Elm Street).

https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-laboratory-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/






This is abject nonsense. Did you even bother to read the OP? JFK starts raising his right arm long before Connally does. JFK's waving motion freezes by no later than Z200 as he starts to bring both hands inward and upward toward his throat. He's in the process of doing this when he disappears from view in Z207. This is long before Connally starts to raise his arm, and this is even longer before Connally's right shoulder is slammed downward in Z238.

I notice you said nothing about JFK's dramatic Z226-232 reaction, the main subject of the OP.

I also notice you said nothing about the fact that the HSCA PEP determined that JFK was hit at or before Z190.

I also notice you said nothing about Jackie's pre-Z207 reaction and her Z222-223 reaction, which undeniably prove that she realized something was wrong with JFK before Z207. Poof, on that basis alone your absurd Z224 SBT collapses.

Did you miss the news that the HSCA FPP determined that the back wound was below the throat wound, that the bullet struck the back at an upward angle, and that the tunneling inside the wound indicated that the bullet traveled upward after it entered the back? The HSCA FPP noted that "the wound beneath the skin appears to be tunneled from below upward" (7 HSCA 87). HSCA FPP Figure 12 shows the back wound slightly below the throat wound (7 HSCA 100). The upward-trajectory finding confirmed the 1975 finding of Dr. Werner Spitz of the Rockefeller Commission’s medical panel:

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There is no doubt that the bullet which struck the President’s back penetrated the skin in a sharply upward direction, as is evident from the width of the abrasion at the lower half of the bullet wound of entrance. The term "sharply upward direction" is used because it is evident from this injury that the missile traveled upwards within the body. (Report of Werner Spitz, 4/24/75, p. 1, Rockefeller Commission papers, see https://websites.umich.edu/~ahaq/correspondence.pdf)
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A "nearly perfect" SBT demonstration, huh?! I guess you didn't notice that Specter has the rod at a level on the back that is far below the stand-in's collar and far below the WC's location for the back wound? The WC's Rydberg drawing has the wound on the neck and above the throat wound (CE 385). I guess you also didn't notice that Specter has the bullet exiting at the bottom of the stand-in's tie knot?

I find your appeal to Specter's demonstration in CE 903 curious, because I've had many WC apologists tell me that his demonstration was wrong because he put the back wound too low. You guys need to get your story straight.

I take it you are unaware of the recent 3D laser analysis of the SBT done by the forensic engineering firm Knott Laboratory, the first analysis of its kind ever done of the SBT? Knott Lab's 3D analysis proves that the SBT is impossible. Here's an article about Knott Lab's historic analysis:

https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-lab-uses-forensic-science-to-refute-warren-commission-findings-on-jfk-assassination/

Here's a 24-minute podcast interview with Knott Lab CEO and Principal Engineer Stanley Stoll in which he explains the Knott 3D laser analysis and shows clips based on the digital reconstruction from the 3D laser data:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glUgE9RCwnw

FYI, the Knott Lab engineers placed the JFK and JBC figures after creating a digital twin of Dealey Plaza and then using AI-assisted photogrammetric analysis of the Zapruder film, photos of the limo, and various other photos to place the figures in the limousine. They made the digital twin of the plaza by doing an exhaustive laser survey of the plaza, collecting millions of data points to enable a digital 3D recreation of the plaza that was an exact duplicate of the plaza in every aspect. After making the digital twin, they used photogrammetric analysis to place the Kennedy and Connally figures in the limousine (as well as to place the limousine in the correct position on Elm Street).

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  It is strange how the Covid Mantra of, "Follow The Science", does Not apply to the Knott Lab Forensic SCIENCE finding that the SBT, "IS IMPOSSIBLE". And the SBT is the cornerstone of the 3 Shots/1 Shooter Scenario.
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It should be pointed out again and again that the most sophisticated trajectory analysis ever done refutes the single-bullet theory. The analysis was done by Knott Laboratory in 2023. The Knott Lab engineers placed the JFK and JBC figures after creating a digital twin of Dealey Plaza and then using AI-assisted photogrammetric analysis of the Zapruder film, photos of the limo, and various other photos to place the figures in the limousine. They made the digital twin of the plaza by doing an exhaustive laser survey of the plaza, collecting millions of data points to enable a digital 3D recreation of the plaza that was an exact duplicate of the plaza in every aspect. After making the digital twin, they used photogrammetric analysis to place the Kennedy and Connally figures in the limousine (as well as to place the limousine in the correct position on Elm Street).

https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-laboratory-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/


It should be pointed out again and again that the most sophisticated trajectory analysis ever done refutes the single-bullet theory. The analysis was done by Knott Laboratory in 2023.   

Maybe it is not so grand. In the cartoon, they still indicate the bullet exited JFK and struck JBC in the back. Isn’t that still Single Bullet theory? The red line trajectory on JBC looks to have originated in outer space. How could you ever doubt these guys?

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