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JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Jack Nessan on May 31, 2025, 04:22:42 PM ---1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
May have?
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
And?
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.
3) D'oh
Meaning?
Meaning I think you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.
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Jack Nessan:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on June 01, 2025, 12:17:12 AM ---
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1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
May have?
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?
His memory only improved with age to the point he did not know. Sure, why not. It is much better to believe the other witnesses.
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
And?
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.
A lot of the video is messed up, but the first shot passes through JFK and strikes JBC in the back. While the graphic is moving JBC laterally the trajectory lines up perfectly at one point. That is wrong?
The HSCA had an estimated variation in the trajectory analysis.
3) D'oh
Meaning?
Meaning you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.
The beginning of a new language? Apparently, one only you know the exact meaning. Possible perversion of the Russian language no doubt.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Jack Nessan on June 01, 2025, 05:13:14 AM ---
1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
May have?
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?
His memory only improved with age to the point he did not know. Sure, why not. It is much better to believe the other witnesses.
If he had truly been hit by a different bullet, how could he possibly lose his memory and conviction of that no matter how "senile" he may have become later?
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
And?
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.
A lot of the video is messed up, but the first shot passes through JFK and strikes JBC in the back. While the graphic is moving JBC laterally the trajectory lines up perfectly at one point. That is wrong?
The HSCA had an estimated variation in the trajectory analysis.
Knott's "analysis" has Connally's jump-seat misplaced, doesn't have him turned far to his right when he was hit, and deceptively highlights the green trajectory line as it passes diagonally across JFB's back to make it look, optical-illusion-wise, as though the bullet struck even farther to the left than its wrong-for-the-reasons-mentioned-above analysis has it (i.e., off by only about three inches).
3) D'oh
Meaning?
Meaning you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.
The beginning of a new language? Apparently, one only you know the exact meaning. Possible perversion of the Russian language no doubt.
How ironic, seeing how it is you who is wittingly or unwittingly spreading KGB*-approved disinformation, and it is I who believes former sharpshooting Marine radar operator Oswald was sent to Moscow by a KGB "mole" in CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security, not necessarily to be trained or programmed to be an assassin (although one does wonder if he really needed to spend a week in Botkinskaya Hospital -- including a few days in its psych ward -- after allegedly trying to kill himself), but to serve as an unwitting "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA.
*Today's SVR and FSB
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Jack Nessan:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on June 01, 2025, 05:37:34 AM ---
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1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
May have?
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?
Memory improved with age to the point he did not know. Sure, why not.
If he had truly been hit by a different bullet, how could he possibly lose his memory and conviction of that no matter how "senile" he may have become later?
The belief in a conspiracy exists only because of an imaginary third shot and JBC’s belief he was hit by a separate bullet based on a time frame beyond the capabilities of the carcano.
JBC wasn’t hit by a separate shot according to all the witnesses around him.
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
And?
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.
A lot of the video is messed up, but the first shot passes through JFK and strikes JBC in the back. While the graphic is moving JBC laterally the trajectory lines up perfectly at one point. That is wrong?
The HSCA had an estimated variation in the trajectory analysis.
Knott's "analysis" has Connally's jump-seat misplaced, doesn't have him turned far to his right when he was hit, and deceptively highlights the green trajectory line as it passes diagonally across JFB's back to make it look, optical-illusion-wise, as though the bullet struck even farther to the left than its wrong-for-the-reasons-mentioned-above analysis has it (i.e., off by only about three inches).
You are preaching to the choir. The HSCA’s expert, Thomas Canning, testified that the only possible explanation for the wound in JBC’s back was the bullet that passed through JFK’s neck. In their own way Knotts Lab proved that.
3) D'oh
Meaning?
Meaning you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.
The beginning of a new language? Apparently, one only you know the exact meaning. Possible perversion of the Russian language no doubt.
How ironic, seeing how it is you who is wittingly or unwittingly spreading KGB*-approved disinformation, and it is I who believes former sharpshooting Marine radar operator Oswald was sent to Moscow by a KGB "mole" in CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security, not necessarily to be trained or programmed to be an assassin (although one does wonder if he really needed to spend a week in Botkinskaya Hospital -- including a few days in its psych ward -- after allegedly trying to kill himself), but to serve as an unwitting "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA.
*Today's SVR and FSB
No doubt at all that the shooter was LHO. Sounds like as good of a reason as any.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Jack Nessan on June 01, 2025, 08:17:01 AM ---1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
May have?
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?
Memory improved with age to the point he did not know. Sure, why not.
If he had truly been hit by a different bullet, how could he possibly lose his memory and conviction of that no matter how "senile" he may have become later?
The belief in a conspiracy exists only because of an imaginary third shot and JBC’s belief he was hit by a separate bullet based on a time frame beyond the capabilities of the Carcano. JBC wasn’t hit by a separate shot according to all the witnesses around him.
The belief in a conspiracy exists because 1) Dealey Plaza was an echo chamber, making it hard for the lackadaisical-then-startled witnesses to count the number / timing / duration of the shots, 2) The assassin who fired all three shots from the sixth-floor Sniper's Nest and whose prints were found on the murder weapon (Oswald) took 10.2 seconds to fire them, more than enough time to fire the last two accurately, 3) the first shot, a steeply downward-angled one, missed everything and sounded "muffled" compared to the other two because the short-rifle's muzzle was completely inside the building when it was fired, 4) the bullet that wounded both JFK and JBC (CE-399) was strangely (i.e., no damage to the nose) and only moderately deformed because it struck only one hard bone (JBC's radial bone), and did so while travelling backwards at a greatly reduced velocity (see below), 5) JFK appears in the Zapruder film to have been stuck about half-a second before JBC only because the bullet nicked his spinal cord, causing his arms and hands to instantaneously react in a neuromuscular way, 6) The seeming contradiction between the non-fragmenting of CE-399 when it hit JBC’s radial bone versus the fragmenting of the third bullet when it hit JFK’s skull was due to the fact that CE-399, having already passed through JFK’s and JBC’s bodies, wasn’t going fast enough to fragment, whereas the headshot bullet was still going about 1800 feet-per-second when it stuck near the thickest part of JFK’s skull – the external occipital protuberance.
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
And?
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.
A lot of the video is messed up, but the first shot passes through JFK and strikes JBC in the back. While the graphic is moving JBC laterally the trajectory lines up perfectly at one point. That is wrong?
The HSCA had an estimated variation in the trajectory analysis.
Knott's "analysis" has Connally's jump-seat misplaced, doesn't have him turned far to his right when he was hit, and deceptively highlights the green trajectory line as it passes diagonally across JFB's back to make it look, optical-illusion-wise, as though the bullet struck even farther to the left than its wrong-for-the-reasons-mentioned-above analysis has it (i.e., off by only about three inches).
You are preaching to the choir. The HSCA’s expert, Thomas Canning, testified that the only possible explanation for the wound in JBC’s back was the bullet that passed through JFK’s neck. In their own way Knotts Lab proved that.
3) D'oh
Meaning?
Meaning you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.
The beginning of a new language? Apparently, one only you know the exact meaning. Possible perversion of the Russian language no doubt.
How ironic, seeing how it is you who is wittingly or unwittingly spreading KGB*-approved disinformation, and it is I who believes former sharpshooting Marine radar operator Oswald was sent to Moscow by a KGB "mole" in CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security, not necessarily to be trained or programmed to be an assassin (although one does wonder if he really needed to spend a week in Botkinskaya Hospital -- including a few days in its psych ward -- after allegedly trying to kill himself), but to serve as an unwitting "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA.
*Today's SVR and FSB
No doubt at all that the shooter was LHO. Sounds like as good of a reason as any.
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