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JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
Jim Hawthorn:
--- Quote from: Paul McBrearty on January 30, 2024, 11:15:26 PM ---
Rosemary Willis appears to be reacting to the first shot circa z142, evidenced by her rapid head turn to the right toward the Book Depository.
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...or her mother shouting "Rosemary!! Get back here!!"
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Jerry Organ on January 31, 2024, 12:20:09 AM ---
I think that maybe the light flesh tone on Rosemary's face was faded or by glare or had blurred to white for a frame or two in the Z140s, making it only seem she turned her head. If not, she managed to turn her head fully to her right and back again over two frames. (Cue Zapruder alterationist claim)
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Not sure why a Running Kid that is wearing a hoody up over their ears would be proffered as an EARwitness. Probably says something about the weakness of the case.
Michael T. Griffith:
--- Quote from: Jim Hawthorn on January 31, 2024, 09:27:01 AM ---
Paul McBrearty: Rosemary Willis appears to be reacting to the first shot circa z142, evidenced by her rapid head turn to the right toward the Book Depository.
...or her mother shouting "Rosemary!! Get back here!!"
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When Rosemary Willis became an adult and was asked about her reaction in the Zapruder film, she said she stopped and turned because she heard a loud bang.
She begins to noticeably slow down between Z162 and Z174, and she is standing still by no later than Z187. "Circa Z142" seems a little bit early to me, though certainly not implausible. I think this shot was probably fired between Z145 and Z155.
--- Quote from: John Mytton on January 31, 2024, 02:41:17 AM ---Not only does Connally show a violent reaction, the right side of Connally's jacket forcefully thrusts forward, you know the same jacket side which has a hole in it! Oops! JohnM
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This is timeworn, debunked nonsense. And this regurgitated nonsense doesn't even address JFK's and Jackie's pre-Z207 reactions, Jackie's Z222-224 reaction, JFK's being jolted forward in Z226, and the slamming down of Connally's right shoulder in Z238.
Connally's jacket is not "forcefully thrust forward" but bunches outward as a natural result of his turning his head and upper body. As Connally himself explained, in Z224 he is turning his head and upper body back to the left after having turned to the right to see try to see JFK, so of course the right side of his coat is going to bunch outward a bit as a result of his having turned sharply to his right. And note that the right side of his jacket is flat and normal again in Z228 because his shoulders are virtually parallel with the limo's roll bar.
And never mind that Connally himself--you know, the guy who actually experienced the wounding--said he was certain he was not hit before Z228, right? He said this after carefully studying high-quality color prints of the Zapruder frames with a high-powered magnification loupe. But, nah, never mind that, right? He was "mistaken," because you and other WC apologists know his reactions better than he did!
You people are just amazing in your refusal to acknowledge visible, observable reality because that reality destroys your theory of the shooting.
Jim Hawthorn:
--- Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on January 31, 2024, 04:24:26 PM ---When Rosemary Willis became an adult and was asked about her reaction in the Zapruder film, she said she stopped and turned because she heard a loud bang.
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OK. Ta. Thumb1:
Steve M. Galbraith:
--- Quote from: Jim Hawthorn on January 31, 2024, 06:02:35 PM ---OK. Ta. Thumb1:
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Willis gave more details in the story that can be read here: https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3899.msg154068.html#msg154068
She said she heard three shots and that all came from direction of the TSBD. But she insisted that "someone with a silencer" could have been the one who killed JFK and that "Oswald was up there as clear as could be. I think he was up there on purpose to make people think he was the one."
"Up there to make people think he was the one"? And he would do this why?
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