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JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth
Michael T. Griffith:
--- Quote from: Jim Hawthorn on January 30, 2024, 03:53:49 PM ---
...even the WC's experts recognized that there is "some jerkiness" in JFK's movements in Z199-205, and that his right elbow "appears to be raised to an artificially high position" in Z204-205
I'm struggling to see that in the Zapruder frames. Would you have frames or a gif that reveals that?
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Regarding the jerkiness, just watch the film in slow motion (0.25 speed) and start at, say, Z185, and notice how his waving motion starts to freeze at around Z200.
Regarding the unusually high position of his right elbow in Z204-205, you can't see this? Just look at the still frames. It's pretty obvious that something odd is going on with his right elbow. That's not a natural position and is unlike his elbow's position up to that point.
The WC's experts saw these things. So did the HSCA PEP experts. So did Olson and Turner in the Journal of Forensic Sciences. So have a number of other private experts.
One of the most obvious Rosetta Stones that destroys the SBT is Jackie's self-evident reaction that starts in the Z190s and is impossible to miss by Z206, at the very latest. Starting in the Z190s, she suddenly snaps her head to the right and by Z202-204, no later than Z206, she has turned her head from left to right and is looking intently at JFK, and she is still looking straight at him in Z222. To all but the brainwashed and the blind, this is self-evident proof that she realized something was wrong with JFK before Z207 and before Z224.
Jim Hawthorn:
--- Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on January 30, 2024, 06:41:50 PM ---Regarding the jerkiness, just watch the film in slow motion (0.25 speed) and start at, say, Z185, and notice how his waving motion starts to freeze at around Z200.
Regarding the unusually high position of his right elbow in Z204-205, you can't see this? Just look at the still frames. It's pretty obvious that something odd is going on with his right elbow. That's not a natural position and is unlike his elbow's position up to that point.
The WC's experts saw these things. So did the HSCA PEP experts. So did Olson and Turner in the Journal of Forensic Sciences. So have a number of other private experts.
One of the most obvious Rosetta Stones that destroys the SBT is Jackie's self-evident reaction that starts in the Z190s and is impossible to miss by Z206, at the very latest. Starting in the Z190s, she suddenly snaps her head to the right and by Z202-204, no later than Z206, she has turned her head from left to right and is looking intently at JFK, and she is still looking straight at him in Z222. To all but the brainwashed and the blind, this is self-evident proof that she realized something was wrong with JFK before Z207 and before Z224.
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Thanks, I got the frames from the photo gallery link.
I don't see anything that proves an earlier shot. Kennedy's hand is high as he is waving to passers by. He holds that last high wave (nothing unusual about that) and appears to turn to Jackie. They could have been simply sharing a laugh about what they had seen or heard, to the right of the limo - "We love you Jackie!" - "Ha ha! D'ya hear that Jackie?".
The first visual sign of an impact is just as they emerge from the sign.
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Jim Hawthorn on January 30, 2024, 08:47:28 PM ---Thanks, I got the frames from the photo gallery link.
I don't see anything that proves an earlier shot. Kennedy's hand is high as he is waving to passers by. He holds that last high wave (nothing unusual about that) and appears to turn to Jackie. They could have been simply sharing a laugh about what they had seen or heard, to the right of the limo - "We love you Jackie!" - "Ha ha! D'ya hear that Jackie?".
The first visual sign of an impact is just as they emerge from the sign.
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Thumb1:
Griffith is stuck in the last the Century and hasn't grasped the advancements of stabilization, and anyway, I wouldn't trust anything that Griffith claims he sees in the Zapruder Film because he is on record claiming that huge sections of the entire Film have been Faked, like his absurd analysis that Brehm's son shows movement that is impossible, and that's only the start of his long list of amateur observations!!
The Zapruder Film in this stabilized GIF from frame Z182 through to Z247 clearly shows nothing unusual about Kennedy waving as he disappears behind the Stemmons Freeway sign, but when he emerges both elbows suddenly and quite dramatically raise and at the same time Connally is violently reacting, to deny this simultaneous reaction to both Men being struck by CE399, is insane. And addressing Griffith's so called "Rosetta Stone" LOL, before they reach the sign, the entire occupants of the Limo are aware of the first gunshot, hence Jackie checking out the welfare of her husband but when JFK is actually hit, this is the point in time that Jackie reaches out to JFK and places her reassuring hand on his obviously just raised elbow.
An even slower stabilized GIF of what is seen above.
Just before Kennedy goes behind the sign, his right Elbow can be seen casually resting on the side of the Limo and to claim that "It's pretty obvious that something odd is going on with his right elbow." is just another crazy ass amateur observation.
I picked out the two clearest Zapruder frames before the sign and the first Zapruder frame which partially obscures Kennedy's right elbow and I still can't see "something odd" with the movement of Kennedy's right elbow or arm!
Btw here's a stabilized real time view of Brehm's son and the "impossible' movement! Hahahahahahaha!
JohnM
Royell Storing:
"....... and at the same time Connally is violently reacting....." = Total BS: Stop proffering your jaded opinion as if it were fact. It ain't. You guys have been on Tilt ever since Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE proved that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". Getta grip!
John Mytton:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on January 31, 2024, 01:50:25 AM --- "....... and at the same time Connally is violently reacting....." = Total BS: Stop proffering your jaded opinion as if it were fact. It ain't. You guys have been on Tilt ever since Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE proved that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". Getta grip!
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Not only does Connally show a violent reaction, the right side of Connally's jacket forcefully thrusts forward, you know the same jacket side which has a hole in it! Oops!
JohnM
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