The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What

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Re: The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What
« Reply #133 on: February 22, 2024, 02:38:14 PM »

That is just a patently false statement. Both Nellie and JBC clearly relate that JBC was hit by the first shot. So did DPD Hargis as well as Bill Newman.

Seriously it is time to clue in Andrew.
You can't be serious. Have you not read anything they have ever said?  They were adamant all their lives that JBC was not hit in the back by the first shot!  Nellie observed JFK reacting to the first shot before she observed JBC recoiling from being hit in the back by the second shot.  JBC said he felt no impact from the first shot but heard it and feared an assassination was occurring.

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« Reply #134 on: February 22, 2024, 03:48:35 PM »
Both Nellie and JBC clearly relate that JBC was hit by the first shot. So did DPD Hargis as well as Bill Newman.

Nope. In the 60s interviews/statements with Connally that I've seen, he clearly states that he was hit by the second shot (as he turned round). For example (from 1:20):


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« Reply #135 on: February 22, 2024, 04:00:02 PM »

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« Reply #137 on: February 22, 2024, 05:00:06 PM »
JBC said he was hit by a shot he did not hear, but he only heard two shots total. 

JBC’s own Warren Commission statement, confirmed by both Jackie’s and Nellie’s statements, stated he was hit by the first shot, Bill Newman’s TV interview, DPD Hargis all tell a different story, that he was hit by the first shot. Both SA Greer and SA Kellerman have two shots and then accelerate. Everyone in the car and most around the car only relate two shots. In case you don’t hear that on your videos. 

Where is the statement where JBC pretty much states the exact opposite of his reactions? Completely contradicting himself. It seems to be a huge problem with his statements. Maybe it relates to the severity of his wounding and he simple does not know or recall.

Nellie’s same day statement issued through Jullian Read: “Nellie does not know about a third shot”. So, she went from not knowing to describing him hit by the first shot in her WC statement to mimicking the everchanging storyline after that. Where are the videos showing that?

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« Reply #138 on: February 22, 2024, 05:10:40 PM »
JBC said he was hit by a shot he did not hear, but he only heard two shots total. 

JBC’s own Warren Commission statement, confirmed by both Jackie’s and Nellie’s statements, stated he was hit by the first shot, Bill Newman’s TV interview, DPD Hargis all tell a different story, that he was hit by the first shot. Both SA Greer and SA Kellerman have two shots and then accelerate. Everyone in the car and most around the car only relate two shots. In case you don’t hear that on your videos. 

Where is the statement where JBC pretty much states the exact opposite of his reactions? Completely contradicting himself. It seems to be a huge problem with his statements. Maybe it relates to the severity of his wounding and he simple does not know or recall.

Nellie’s same day statement issued through Jullian Read: “Nellie does not know about a third shot”. So, she went from not knowing to describing him hit by the first shot in her WC statement to mimicking the everchanging storyline after that. Where are the videos showing that?

Yes, I agree that their perception could have easily been blurred by the shock and the rapidity of what happened.

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« Reply #139 on: February 23, 2024, 05:48:18 PM »
JBC said he was hit by a shot he did not hear, but he only heard two shots total. 
So that's three shots. Two that he heard and one that he felt strike him in between: ie. at a time after hearing the first and turning around to check on JFK but before hearing and feeling the effects of the third.

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JBC’s own Warren Commission statement, confirmed by both Jackie’s and Nellie’s statements, stated he was hit by the first shot
Which part of the following statement are you having difficulty with (4 H 135-136)?:

Mr. SPECTER. In your view, which bullet caused the injury to your chest,
Governor CONNALLY. The second one.
Mr. SPECTER. And what is your reason for that conclusion, sir?
Governor CONNALLY. Well, in my judgment, it just couldn’t conceivably have
been the first one because I heard the sound of the shot. In the first place, I
don’t know anything about the velocity of this particular bullet, but any rifle
has a velocity that exceeds the speed of sound, and when I heard the sound
of that first shot, that bullet had already reached where I was, or it had reached
that far, and after I heard that shot. I had the time to turn to my right, and
start to turn to my left before I felt anything.

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Both SA Greer and SA Kellerman have two shots and then accelerate. Everyone in the car and most around the car only relate two shots. In case you don’t hear that on your videos.
Both Greer (2 H 119) and Kellerman (2 H 278) said there were three shots.  Greer even explained that he turned around immediately after - almost simultaneously with - the second shot, then turned forward and then back again before the third shot occurred.

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Nellie’s same day statement issued through Jullian Read: “Nellie does not know about a third shot”. So, she went from not knowing to describing him hit by the first shot in her WC statement to mimicking the everchanging storyline after that. Where are the videos showing that?
Do you have a cite for this statement?  Her WC statement is pretty clear that she heard three shots (4 H 149).  She watched JFK react to the first shot but never looked back after the second shot that she saw her husband recoil from.  She says she then heard and felt the effects from the third shot striking JFK in the head.
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