The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What

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Online Andrew Mason

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Re: The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What
« Reply #119 on: February 12, 2024, 10:54:54 PM »
So it all seems to come down to the assumptions made by Myers and the Knott crew, about what were the actual body positions at the time of the back-to-neck shot (and if the bullet deviated in its path as it passed through JFK).
There is no possibility of the bullet changing direction materially after passing through JFK. It comes down to:  1. determining when the shot through JFK's neck may have occurred, according to the evidence, 2. what the actual position and direction of the car was at those times and what the body positions of the two men were at those times as determined from the evidence and 3. what the straight line trajectory of a shot from the SN through JFK's neck would have struck after leaving JFK, using an accurate 3D model of Dealey Plaza.

1. is going to be a range of zframes based on evidence.  There are over 20 witnesses who reported seeing JFK react to the first shot and witnesses along Elm St. who said the first shot occurred just as the President's car passed by them or the President's car was "almost directly in front of me" or "after acknowledging our cheers, he faced forward again".  Hugh Betzner said it was just after he took his z186 photo and was about to wind the film to take another.  Phil Willis said that he took his z202 photo because the sound of the first shot caused him to reaction and press the shutter button on his camera.  So that gives one possible range of frames to look at of maybe z190 to z202.  The Connallys said that they thought that JBC looked like he was hit in the back at around z230 or so.  So, assessing the uncertainty, you would look at a range from say 223-235.  The WC said that JFK was hit around z210. Bugliosi thought the same.  So you would look at a range from z205-215.

2. this is a matter of first of all having an accurate model of the car and of the two men.   Then it is a matter of placing the car and them in the car and with the right posture so they appear to be the same as seen in the zfilm at the relevant frames.  Again, there will be a range of uncertainty that would need to be quantified.

3.  then it is just a matter of using an accurate 3D model of Dealey Plaza to see what a straight line path through JFK looked like for all ranges of times and positions.

The bottom line is that there is going to be a range of possible paths for the bullet through JFK at each of those times. Knott says that in any of those scenarios at z225 and z210 the trajectory through JFK does not go to JBC's right armpit or anywhere close.  But they have not tried all the possible times.  In particular, they have not tried a shot through JFK between z190 and z202 which is what I would be interested in seeing.



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Re: The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What
« Reply #120 on: February 12, 2024, 11:14:29 PM »
Here is a reminder that the SBT has been prooved.
Lattimer's 1994 tests showed that it was not possible for Connally's lapel to flip at Z224 unless the slug (magic bullet) at Z218 had firstly passed thru JFK.
Lattimer's 1994 tests showed that the spray from the outshoot (ie the spray under Connally's lapel) was not powerfull enuff (to flip the lapel) unless the slug had started to tumble before entry into Connally.
Hence Lattimer proved the SBT.

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Re: The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What
« Reply #121 on: February 13, 2024, 12:48:44 AM »
So it all seems to come down to the assumptions made by Myers and the Knott crew, about what were the actual body positions at the time of the back-to-neck shot (and if the bullet deviated in its path as it passed through JFK).





  "Assumptions"?  As Jacob McCandles would say, "NOT HARDLY"!

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Re: The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What
« Reply #122 on: February 13, 2024, 01:28:54 AM »
Experimental duplication of the important physical evidence of the lapel bulge of the jacket worn by Governor Connally when bullet 399 went through him:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8167893/
Lattimer did make a mistake (ie he lied).
His own tests showed that if the flip was at Z224 then the bullet was at Z220, yet he says that the bullet was at Z224 (ie at the same time as the flip).
I pointed out that in his 1994 test the slug was closer to the lapel than the actual slug in 1963, in fact the 1994 slug took a chunk out of the lapel.
Hence i was able to say that the slug hit at Z218 rather than Z220 (& certainly not at Lattimer's silly Z224).
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Re: The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What
« Reply #123 on: February 13, 2024, 05:35:08 PM »
Here is a reminder that the SBT has been prooved.
Lattimer's 1994 tests showed that it was not possible for Connally's lapel to flip at Z224 unless the slug (magic bullet) at Z218 had firstly passed thru JFK.
Lattimer's 1994 tests showed that the spray from the outshoot (ie the spray under Connally's lapel) was not powerfull enuff (to flip the lapel) unless the slug had started to tumble before entry into Connally.
Hence Lattimer proved the SBT.
First of all, one has to prove that JBC's jacket bulges.  All we can say is that the area of white shirt that is visible increases from z222-223 and decreases from z223-224.  That is consistent with JBC moving his arm and causing movement of his jacket.  I am not sure how else one could explain the change from z222-223:

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Re: The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What
« Reply #124 on: February 13, 2024, 09:12:06 PM »
First of all, one has to prove that JBC's jacket bulges.  All we can say is that the area of white shirt that is visible increases from z222-223 and decreases from z223-224.  That is consistent with JBC moving his arm and causing movement of his jacket.  I am not sure how else one could explain the change from z222-223:

My reading is that Lattimer in 1994 showed that there was no flip if no bulge (needs checking).
In 1963 we  see a flip. So, there must have been a bulge (needs checking).
But the flip is sufficient to prove the SBT.  We dont need a double proof (needs checking).
But, yes, a (very) strong gust of air could have made a/the flip.
In the giff, the 1963 tie/shirt does have a suspicion of a bit of bulge (but Z is very blurry).

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Re: The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2024, 09:31:32 PM »
My reading is that Lattimer in 1994 showed that there was no flip if no bulge (needs checking).
In 1963 we  see a flip. So, there must have been a bulge (needs checking).
But the flip is sufficient to prove the SBT.  We dont need a double proof (needs checking).
But, yes, a (very) strong gust of air could have made a/the flip.
In the giff, the 1963 tie/shirt does have a suspicion of a bit of bulge (bit Z is very blurry).
But it is not at all clear that the lapel flips from z223-224.  There is a change in the amount of white shirt that can be seen.  That is all we can see.  That is consistent with the jacket moving due to hand movement. In fact, from z222-223 the amount of white shirt increases. In z222 we can see a small white spot which could well be the brim of his hat that he is clutching in his hand.  This white spot then disappears from view in z223 as he moves his hand down below the top of the side of the car, exposing more white shirt. Then when he brings his hand and hat up into view again, the jacket moves over the shirt reducing the amount of white shirt visible.  The entire change in white shirt visibility fits perfectly with the movement of his right arm across the front of his body as he prepared to turn around toward JFK.