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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #200 on: August 30, 2023, 10:46:51 PM »
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if he was zipping it up, he was wearing a jacket.

If Mrs. Roberts was paying enough attention to notice that he was zipping it up, then we have no reason on the face of it to assume she wasn't paying enough attention to notice whether it was light or dark.

Agreed?

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #201 on: August 30, 2023, 11:01:49 PM »
From 4/1/64 FBI report:
 
“Marina was questioned further concerning clothing jackets which had been owned by Lee Harvey Oswald. She said to the best of her recollection Lee Harvey Oswald had only two jackets, one a heavy jacket, blue in color, and another light jacket, gray in color. She said she believes Oswald possessed both of these jackets in Russia and had purchased them in the United States prior to his departure for Russia. She said she cannot recall that Oswald ever sent either of these jackets to any laundry or cleaners anywhere. She said she can recall washing them herself. She advised to her knowledge Oswald possessed both of these jackets at Dallas on November 22, 1963.”

Here's Mr. Oswald in Minsk:



I ask a question which the excellent Mr. Greg Doudna has been asking:

Is the jacket Mr. Oswald is wearing here the gray jacket Mrs. Marina Oswald mentions above?

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #202 on: August 30, 2023, 11:27:49 PM »
Here's Mr. Oswald in Minsk:



I ask a question which the excellent Mr. Greg Doudna has been asking:

Is the jacket Mr. Oswald is wearing here the gray jacket Mrs. Marina Oswald mentions above?

It seems logical to think so, yes? Mrs. Marina Oswald only recalls Mr. Oswald wearing two jackets, both of which he purchased in America, took to the Soviet Union, and brought back to America. Both of which he still had in Dallas in Nov. 1963.

Which means Mrs. Earlene Roberts' recollection of a dark + gray zip-up jacket just got a whole lot more difficult to dismiss out of hand.

If the jacket we see Mr. Oswald wearing in Minsk is indeed the gray jacket Mrs. Marina Oswald refers to, then is it not reasonable to propose that it is the jacket Mrs. Roberts saw him zipping up as he left the rooming house?

If if is that jacket, then things get rather interesting.

If it's not that jacket, then we have to ask a simple question: Why was that jacket not found amongst his personal effects in Beckley after the assassination?
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #203 on: August 30, 2023, 11:51:21 PM »
It seems logical to think so, yes? Mrs. Marina Oswald only recalls Mr. Oswald wearing two jackets, both of which he purchased in America, took to the Soviet Union, and brought back to America. Both of which he still had in Dallas in Nov. 1963.

Which means Mrs. Earlene Roberts' recollection of a dark + gray zip-up jacket just got a whole lot more difficult to dismiss out of hand.

If the jacket we see Mr. Oswald wearing in Minsk is indeed the gray jacket Mrs. Marina Oswald refers to, then is it not reasonable to propose that it is the jacket Mrs. Roberts saw him zipping up as he left the rooming house?

If if is that jacket, then things get rather interesting.

If it's not that jacket, then we have to ask a simple question: Why was that jacket not found amongst his personal effects in Beckley after the assassination?

Where did the jacket go Alan?
And just to clarify something - where does Earlene Roberts say Oswald was zipping up a "dark" jacket?

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #204 on: August 30, 2023, 11:54:52 PM »
From 4/1/64 FBI report:
 
“Marina was questioned further concerning clothing jackets which had been owned by Lee Harvey Oswald. She said to the best of her recollection Lee Harvey Oswald had only two jackets, one a heavy jacket, blue in color, and another light jacket, gray in color. She said she believes Oswald possessed both of these jackets in Russia and had purchased them in the United States prior to his departure for Russia. She said she cannot recall that Oswald ever sent either of these jackets to any laundry or cleaners anywhere. She said she can recall washing them herself. She advised to her knowledge Oswald possessed both of these jackets at Dallas on November 22, 1963.”

Here's Mr. Oswald in Minsk:



I ask a question which the excellent Mr. Greg Doudna has been asking:

Is the jacket Mr. Oswald is wearing here the gray jacket Mrs. Marina Oswald mentions above?





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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #205 on: August 30, 2023, 11:55:56 PM »
Where did the jacket go Alan?

You mean the dark gray jacket that Mrs. Roberts said she saw him leave in? The simplest solution would be that he took it off inside the Texas Theatre and it was left there.

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And just to clarify something - where does Earlene Roberts say Oswald was zipping up a "dark" jacket?

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« Reply #207 on: August 31, 2023, 12:11:57 AM »
You mean the dark gray jacket that Mrs. Roberts said she saw him leave in? The simplest solution would be that he took it off inside the Texas Theatre and it was left there.

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The simplest solution would be that he took it off inside the Texas Theatre and it was left there.

What evidence is there for this? There is none. You're just making stuff up.

But there is evidence against this - Brewer said Oswald wasn't wearing a jacket before he entered the Texas Theater.
So, where did his jacket go before he got to Brewer's shop? (Time to make something else up)