Time for Truth

[Alan Ford]

To my point, the color of the jacket does not matter.

Roberts said Oswald left the rooming house in a jacket.

Mrs. Roberts said Mr. Oswald left the rooming house in a dark jacket. Do you accept that that he therefore must have left the rooming house in a dark jacket?

[John Mytton]

Mrs. Roberts said Mr. Oswald left the rooming house in a dark jacket. Do you accept that that he therefore must have left the rooming house in a dark jacket?

Earlene Roberts didn't say that the jacket was a different type or was longer or shorter, she merely said that it was darker and even then she wasn't sure but that it was definitely zippered. Also what must be taken into consideration was that the lighting conditions were not identical between the two locations and the contrasting environments are an important factor to be considered.

What Earlene Roberts actually said.

Mr. BALL. I'll show you this jacket which is Commission Exhibit 162---have you ever seen this jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe I have, but I don't remember it. It seems like the one he put on was darker than that. Now, I won't be sure, because I really don't know, but is that a zipper jacket?
Mr. BALL. Yes---it has a zipper down the front.
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe it was.
Mr. BALL. It was a zippered jacket, was it?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; it was a zipper jacket. How come me to remember it, he was zipping it up as he went out the door.

In the following example "A" looks way darker than "B" but they are EXACTLY the same.

 

Btw what happened to the jacket and why would Oswald throw away his jacket?



JohnM

[Alan Ford]

What Earlene Roberts actually said.

Mr. BALL. I'll show you this jacket which is Commission Exhibit 162---have you ever seen this jacket before?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe I have, but I don't remember it. It seems like the one he put on was darker than that. Now, I won't be sure, because I really don't know, but is that a zipper jacket?
Mr. BALL. Yes---it has a zipper down the front.
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, maybe it was.
Mr. BALL. It was a zippered jacket, was it?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; it was a zipper jacket. How come me to remember it, he was zipping it up as he went out the door.

Thank you, cherry-picker!

Here's what Mrs. Roberts actually said long before her WC testimony:

“Oswald did not have a jacket when he came in to the house and I don’t recall what type of clothing he was wearing. Oswald went to his room and was only there a few minutes before coming out. I noticed he had a jacket he was putting on. I recall the jacket was a dark color"

(signed affidavit of Mrs. Earlene Roberts of Dec 5, 1963 for the Warren Commission)

 

[John Mytton]

Thank you, cherry-picker!

Here's what Mrs. Roberts actually said long before her WC testimony:

“Oswald did not have a jacket when he came in to the house and I don’t recall what type of clothing he was wearing. Oswald went to his room and was only there a few minutes before coming out. I noticed he had a jacket he was putting on. I recall the jacket was a dark color"

(signed affidavit of Mrs. Earlene Roberts of Dec 5, 1963 for the Warren Commission)

 

Nice try but thanks for proving my point, Earlene doesn't say it was a different type of jacket but that it was just dark and from the following example under different lighting and contrasting conditions it's obvious why she could reach this conclusion.



Btw, now that we agree that Earlene saw Oswald wearing a jacket, what happened to the jacket??



JohnM

[Alan Ford]

Nice try but thanks for proving my point, Earlene doesn't say it was a different type of jacket but that it was just dark and from the following example under different lighting and contrasting conditions it's obvious why she could reach this conclusion.

Nice gaslighting, worthy of Mr. Organ himself!

Did Mrs. Roberts also think Mr. Oswald had transformed into a dark-complected man?   

Btw, now that we agree that Earlene saw Oswald wearing a jacket, what happened to the jacket??

Which jacket do you mean, Mr. Mytton? The light-colored one (CE162) or the dark one Mrs. Roberts said she saw?

[Dan O'meara]

Which jacket do you mean, Mr. Mytton? The light-colored one (CE162) or the dark one Mrs. Roberts said she saw?

I think John's point is that you can pick either jacket - then explain where that jacket has got to.
Clearly, Oswald was not wearing a jacket when he was arrested but it is accepted that Roberts is reliable when describing Oswald leaving the rooming house wearing a jacket.
Where did this jacket get to?
Did he lose it as he strolled down to the Texas Theater from the boarding house? Did it just fall off him?
Or is it the jacket that was discovered on the same route the killer of Tippit used to flee the scene?
Or was it lost somewhere else?

Either way, a jacket has gone missing and it needs to be explained.

[Zeon Mason]

Could Roberts have mistaken seeing Oswald buttoning up his darker brown long sleeve shirt as a jacket being zipped up?

If so then it is possible that Oswald stopped by Brewers store on his way to the Texas theater , just to take a quick look at some shoes. Oswald had visited that store on prior occasion because Brewer remembered him. Brown brown

The dark blue jacket had been  left in the Domino room where Oswald had taken it off to eat lunch about 12:25 after he had bought a coke from the 2nd floor lunchroom at 12:15.

The light gray jacket therefore would have been at the boarding room and so that jacket could have easily just been taken by the same investigators who were in on the post event plot to make sure that “Oswald is our man” by order of LBJ , and that the public must be convinced there was no conspiracy by the Hoover directive.