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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #91 on: June 13, 2023, 09:52:05 PM »
None of the juvenile “Mytton” posturing in the world can make up for the fact that Waldman had no personal knowledge of any particular rifle being shipped through the postal service, or even who circled “PP” on the Waldman 7 picture, when it was circled, or why.

Where is the evidence that the USPS ever handled such an item? Where is the evidence that anybody signed for it and picked it up?

Sometimes what you don’t have evidence of is more important than what you do have.
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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #92 on: June 13, 2023, 11:18:38 PM »
Sometimes what you don’t have evidence of is more important than what you do have.

Yes, if Oswald didn't receive his rifle then naturally he would complain and Kleins would be expected to have to some sort record of how they handled his non delivery but alas no evidence appears to exist. Meaning that Oswald's rifle was delivered.



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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #93 on: June 13, 2023, 11:43:09 PM »
Yes, if Oswald didn't receive his rifle then naturally he would complain and Kleins would be expected to have to some sort record of how they handled his non delivery but alas no evidence appears to exist. Meaning that Oswald's rifle was delivered.

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Hilariously stupid.

First of all, if Kleins' "would be expected to have to some sort record of how they handled his a non delivery" they can also be expected to have evidence (i.e. some sort of shipping document) for every transaction. The mere fact that no such document exists, for the Hidell transaction, could very well mean that the article was never shipped in the first place.

A reason for the absence of a shipping document could very well be that the transaction was cancelled because Kleins' no longer stocked the rifle ordered!

no evidence appears to exist. Meaning that Oswald's rifle was delivered.

It's getting more idiotic; how in the world does the absence of a proper shipping document even remotely mean that a rifle was delivered.

Bottom line; Waldman had no first hand knowledge of the Hidell transaction. All he could do is confirm the meaning of some handwritten markings on an internal document. Kleins' was never able to produce any shipping document that proves a rifle was actually sent.

I hope you learned something, but I fear the worst....

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #94 on: June 14, 2023, 12:01:32 AM »
Hilariously stupid.

First of all, if Kleins' "would be expected to have to some sort record of how they handled his a non delivery" they can also be expected to have evidence (i.e. some sort of shipping document) for every transaction. The mere fact that no such document exists, for the Hidell transaction, could very well mean that the article was never shipped in the first place.

A reason for the absence of a shipping document could very well be that the transaction was cancelled because Kleins' no longer stocked the rifle ordered!

no evidence appears to exist. Meaning that Oswald's rifle was delivered.

It's getting more idiotic; how in the world does the absence of a proper shipping document even remotely mean that a rifle was delivered.

Bottom line; Waldman had no first hand knowledge of the Hidell transaction. All he could do is confirm the meaning of some handwritten markings on an internal document. Kleins' was never able to produce any shipping document that proves a rifle was actually sent.

I hope you learned something, but I fear the worst....

Thank you Martin, of course you are right.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #95 on: June 14, 2023, 12:21:08 AM »
Yes, if Oswald didn't receive his rifle then naturally he would complain and Kleins would be expected to have to some sort record of how they handled his non delivery but alas no evidence appears to exist. Meaning that Oswald's rifle was delivered.

“His rifle”. LOL.

So you expect Klein’s to have “some record of non-delivery”, but not the postal service to have some record of shipment or delivery. How convenient.

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« Reply #96 on: June 14, 2023, 01:13:31 AM »
So you expect Klein’s to have “some record of non-delivery”,

A mail order company's bread and butter comes directly from packages being successfully delivered and if a package isn't received by a customer, then someone would record the eventual outcome.
I don't know Kleins exact procedure because in the case being discussed there is no presented evidence of an unsuccessful delivery.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #97 on: June 14, 2023, 01:26:17 AM »
A mail order company's bread and butter comes directly from packages being successfully delivered and if a package isn't received by a customer, then someone would record the eventual outcome.
I don't know Kleins exact procedure because in the case being discussed there is no presented evidence of an unsuccessful delivery.

JohnM

HAHAHAHA There is also no evidence of a successful delivery.