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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #315 on: September 09, 2023, 09:20:46 PM »
This "funny" business...

John would have everyone believe that the only reason that Brewer took notice of Oswald was that Oswald looked "funny" to Brewer, but there's more to it than that.

Here is a condensed version of Brewer's account, taken from his WC testimony. I've cut and pasted Brewer's statements, leaving out Belin's questions, redundancies, etc:

I heard a siren coming down East Jefferson headed toward West Jefferson.

Let's restore the specific redundancy from Mr. Belin to which Mr. Brewer is replying here:

Mr. BELIN - All right, would you describe what happened after you heard on the radio that an officer had been shot?

And here's what Mr. Brewer had told FBI on 2/27/64:

"... he heard a radio announcement to the effect that an officer had been shot in Oak Cliff [...] a radio broadcast describing the suspect and the man he observed in the store foyer resembled this person"

Seems Mr. Brewer has been working a little too hard to retrospectively justify his intense, way-above-the-call-of-duty interest in the man.

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Cf. Ms. Julia Postal's affidavit 12/4/63:

"I told Johnny he had to be in there, and that he was running from the Police for something."

Cf. also from her WC testimony:

"... so, I told Johnny about the fact that the President had been assassinated. 'I don't know if this is the man they want,' I said, 'in there, but he is running from them for some reason'"

"... So, seemed like I hung up the intercom phone when here all of a sudden, police cars, policemen, plainclothesmen, I never saw so many people in my life. And they raced in, and the next thing I knew, they were carrying----well, that is when I first heard Officer Tippit had been shot because some officer came in the box office and used the phone, said, "I think we have got our man on both accounts." "What two accounts?" And said, "Well, Officer Tippit's [...]""

Does this sound to you like Mr. Brewer said a single word to Ms. Postal relating this suspicious man to the Oak Cliff shooting of an officer?
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #316 on: September 09, 2023, 10:50:31 PM »
Dale Myers book.  He interviewed Hamby.

Thank you!  Thumb1:

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #317 on: September 09, 2023, 11:03:41 PM »
"Not any more LOL-worthy than 'Oswald brought CE143 into the theater'."

LOL

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #318 on: September 09, 2023, 11:10:56 PM »
This "funny" business...

John would have everyone believe that the only reason that Brewer took notice of Oswald was that Oswald looked "funny" to Brewer, but there's more to it than that.

Brewer’s words, not mine.

Mr. BELIN - Why did you happen to watch this particular man?
Mr. BREWER - He just looked funny to me. Well, in the first place, I had seen him some place before. I think he had been in my store before. And when you wait on somebody, you recognize them, and he just seemed funny. His hair was sort of messed up and looked like he had been running, and he looked scared, and he looked funny.

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Here is a condensed version of Brewer's account, taken from his WC testimony.

Condensed. LOL.

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Somehow, John can't seem to understand why someone would think this might be seen as suspicious.

What John understands is that this doesn’t constitute probable cause for the police to conduct a search or a murder arrest.

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #319 on: September 09, 2023, 11:16:06 PM »
So many falsehoods from the contrarian.  Postal confirms in her affidavit that she told the police on the telephone call that the man had entered the theatre without buying a ticket. 

Then why did she tell both Brewer and the FBI that she wasn’t sure if he did or not?

“Confirms”. LOL.

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The police did not enter with "guns blazing."  LOL.  Instead they calmly approached Oswald who pulled his gun.

Ordering people on their feet, throwing people up against walls (Brewer), and conducting illegal searches is not calm. Oswald didn’t “pull his gun”, that’s LN mythology. But McDonald said he was holding his gun when he approached.

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They did not string up the guy seen running into the library.  They approached him and he explained himself.

If you really read Myers’ propaganda piece you would know that they did a hell of a lot more than “approach” him, Dishonest “Richard”.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #320 on: September 09, 2023, 11:38:31 PM »
Dale Myers book.  He interviewed Hamby.

From With Malice:

"Hamby’s choice of clothing that day — a gray sweater and gray slacks — was about to propel the young student into a near fatal encounter."

And there we have it. Mr. Hamby's clothing being close enough to the suspect description was what gave Patrolman Walker due cause to think he was the man.

And boy were they sure:

Dispatcher:           221.
221 [Summers]:   Might can give you some additional information, I got an eyeball witness to the getaway man that — ah — suspect in this shooting. He’s a
                                white male, 27, 5 feet 11, 165, black wavy hair, fair complected, wearing a light gray Eisenhower-type jacket, dark trousers and a
                                white shirt. And — ah — about — last seen — ah — running on the north side of the street from — ah —
                                Patton, on Jefferson, on East Jefferson. And he was apparently armed with a 32 dark finish automatic — ah — pistol, which he had in his right
                                hand.
Dispatcher:           10-4. For your information, 221, they have the the suspect cornered in the library at Marsalis and Jefferson.
221:                     10-4. This man can positively identify him if — they need him.
Dispatcher:            Well, they do have the suspect under arrest now.

Which brings us back to the problem with Mr. Brewer's story. A man in a brown shirt was way off the suspect description ("white shirt"). And yet we're supposed to believe there was due cause for the police to conclude that "the suspect" was in the Texas Theatre.

Doesn't wash.
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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #321 on: September 09, 2023, 11:57:11 PM »
An interesting dispatch:

"There is nothing to this Marsalis [library] here. Let's go back up to the place and work to north Jefferson. We got a witness that saw him shed his jacket and check towards Tyler."

Who was this witness?

Alternative transcript of what Captain Westbrook said:

"We got a witness that seen him going north after he shed his jacket. And check from that vicinity towards Tyler."

Who was this witness?

It kind of matters because this witness will have seen what the suspect looked like after shedding his jacket. This witness would have seen the suspect with no upper garment on other than his shirt.

Now if the suspect were indeed Mr. Oswald, then we would expect Captain Westbrook to say the following:

'Suspect wearing a brown shirt."

I mean, he'd be anxious to update the description from what he now must know was an erroneous "white shirt" description. Right?

But no. As you were. Keep on looking out for a man in a white shirt.

It wasn't Mr. Oswald.
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