Time for Truth

[John Iacoletti]

You really are suggesting that the police and witnesses should ignore a person who is acting suspiciously in the vicinity of the crime because he allegedly didn't match the EXACT description down to every piece of clothing. 

As if the only options are “ignore it” and “search, beat up, and arrest for murder with no probable cause.”

You find that suspicious?  Good grief.  And, of course, we know that Oswald did make efforts to change his appearance after the Tippit shooting by discarding his jacket.

No, we don’t “know” that. It’s another one of your self-serving assumptions.

Oswald matched the general description.

What “general description”? Male?

He was acting suspiciously in the immediate vicinity of the crime. 

Since when is 0.6 miles, “the immediate vicinity”. Since when is looking funny to a shoe salesman probable cause for murder?

The police acted the same way that they did when they saw a guy running inot the library (who didn't meet the descritpion exactly).

Is this supposed to justify it?

[John Iacoletti]

Gray sweater.  Differing from the exact description but acting suspiciously by running in the vicinity of the crime scene.  Police respond in force.  The guy explains himself instead of resisting arrest and trying to pull a gun.

He was running you say? String him up.

Don’t ever go into law enforcement. You would be the poster child for “suspended without pay”.

[John Iacoletti]

The individuals that the police pursued were reported as acting suspiciously.  Running into a library for no apparent reason.  Trying to avoid the police and then sneaking into the TT without buying a ticket.

Except for one small detail. The police responded before anyone ever told them that anyone sneaked into the theater without buying a ticket. Something which, by the way, nobody actually saw.

[John Iacoletti]

We are making snail-like progress.  No one could have thought it possible!  So the police SHOULD have responded to the TT.  We have cleared that up.  Now grasshopper ask yourself the next question.  Who are the police looking for in that area?  A cop murdering killer.   Is such a person potentially dangerous?  Yes!  This guy could turn out to be that person.  He could turn out not to be that person like the guy in the library where a heavy police response was sent.  What should they do?  Send a light response and potentially get more officers killed or send a heavy response to ensure the safety of the responding officers?

Sure, “Richard”, come out guns-blazing to every “slender white male” in the vicinity. The hell with probable cause and the Constitution. If a cop wants to do it, then it’s ok.

[John Iacoletti]

Good grief.  I don't "assume" anything.  It's the witness at the boardinghouse who testified that Oswald was wearing a jacket when he left.  Other witnesses who saw him before he reached the TT confirm he was wearing a jacket.  They didn't just identify a "man" wearing a jacket.  They identified Oswald as the "man" and the man (Oswald) as wearing a jacket.  So multiple witnesses put Oswald in a jacket before reaching the TT.   

Wherein we once again see “Richard’s” confusion between fact and ridiculously contrived unfair lineup.

[Alan Ford]

That is not the question.  You already agreed that the police had cause to go to the TT because they had received a report of a suspicious man entering that theatre that was in the vicinity of the crime.

But the dispatch doesn't say "Have information a man acting suspiciously just went into the Texas Theatre". Rather it says "Have information the suspect just went into the Texas Theatre".

No way would a description of a man in a brown shirt give rise to such a leaping-to-counterintuitive-conclusion dispatch

The question then becomes how they should respond.  Now who are they looking for?  A cop killing murderer who is armed and dangerous.  Right?  Maybe it turns out he is not the guy in the TT.

It would be very surprising indeed if some suspicious-acting brown-shirted guy in the TT should turn out to be the white-shirted suspect everyone's looking for.

However, change but one detail in the after-the-event Brewer story (---------->he described the man as white-shirted) and the DPD's response becomes perfectly intelligible. This could reasonably be seen as "information the suspect just went into the Texas Theatre".

[Alan Ford]

Ah, a GRAY sweater. Thank you, Mr. Smith  (And could you please give us a source for this detail?)

Bumped for Mr. Smith